Lanakay

On 4/7/2022 at 9:08 AM, TallTayl said:

Too much of that question relies on what you are starting with and the problem(s) the additive is trying to fix. 
 

every brand of coconut 76 (ordinary coconut that is solid at typical room temp) I’ve ever bought is different. I use it in soap products and am amazed at the differences from drum to drum.  Some I have is “wetter” than others and just plain won’t burn.  Coconut 92 degree (partially hydrogenated) can burn “better” that wet coco76, but does little to nothing to improve burn or Ht in waxes that don’t need the additive. It had created new problems in waxes that didn’t need it - like pooling and seepage.  Coconut 92 might help keep some waxes in a solid/semi solid state for longer because of that 16 degree difference in melt point. fractionated is liquid at room temp and will cause other issues in waxes that can’t hold that much liquid oil (premature melt, weeping, seeping, instability during temp changes such as in shipping to customers). 

 

coconut oil is not a magic hot throw bullet. Nor is any other oil, hydrogenated oil or other additive. It all depends on what you are starting with. Candle wax is a VERY complex product.
 

If your burn is otherwise good, HT can be tweaked to a degree with a wick series change. Every EO needs something different to perform to its best. I’ve had noticeable improvements, for instance, using CDN vs CD wicks in many waxes. Same wick different chemical treatment. 

I wish the wax manufacturers would produce the super and mostly reliable candle waxes from just a few years ago. 2016 marked a big turning point for most of us.  Waxes became unusable for so many of us, yet we are just expected to buy more, pay more, and suffer silently. There was no accountability, and problematic waxes led to many dangerous candles released to the public by makers who didn’t know any better.

 

@TallTayl

Thank you for the reply. I am trying to solve the hot throw issue for my candles primarily but also tunnelling and wick size.  So too many problems I suppose. 

I have 2 containers and both tunnel or mush room with the htp wicks, the containers are 3 and 3.5 inches and htp 1312 they mushroom and 126 there is tunneling, htp12 12 doesn't work either.  I tried a store bought blend bw917 which has  soy coconut bees was and it burned soooo nicely melting everything to the edges even without the pool going all the way to the edge becasue the wax was softer. I contacted supplier and they couldn't tell me the percent coconut as its proprietary but gave me a ball park that it's less than 20 percent coconut. This is why I decided to try to blend my own soy with coconut oil (not coconut wax and I am not sure if there is a difference blending wax vs coconurnoil). To help with the tunnelling and the hot throw. the soy only candles doesn't produce any hot throw at 7 or 10 e. O. percent. I am only using essential oils and I amm adding them under 140 as to not burn them. 

I guess the wick is not creating a warm enough pool for the scent. Or there are other factors I am not aware off as a newbie. 

I guess i am doing too many things at once and I should test other wick sizes and other wick series. What series should I try for a coconut soy blend?

The reason I wanted to blend myself is I assumed thought that if I did 30 percent coconut it would improve the hot throw. 

Thanks

Lana

On 12/24/2021 at 9:59 PM, NDD said:

Hi , in my coconut soy wax when burning I get what looks like a big x around the wick - I have used 4 different wicks , used a chopstick to pop any sink holes and it is still happening - does anyone know what I sm

doing wrong ? 
 

Thank you! 

This happened to me too. I was mixing my own blend of soy wax and coconut oil. And I saw this x shape on all three candles. I re melted the tops and am waiting to test. 

Did you figure it out? Has it happened before? My pouring temp was 140. What temp did you pour? 

Hello, 

I am not sure anyone will comment as it's now 2022. 

So here is my question, do the properties of hydrogenated coconut vs unhydrogented coconut have any differences other than melting point difference? Ordinary cooking coconut oil has a slight smell, where as coconut wax is hydrogenated meaning has additional hydrogen in its chain and doesn't give off a slight coconut scent. 

For improving hot throw is there one that works better or are they both the same. 

And another question, there is also fractioned coconut oil, made by heating coconut oil to high temperatures, waiting for oil to cool and when it cools it seperate into solids on top liquid on bottom. Well that liquid is called fractioned coconut oil. Sigh. 

I am making candles with eos only and I am trying to improve hot throw. I read on the internet (so it must be true) that fractioned coconut inhibits smell, and that coconut wax has great hot throw. These two addatives are seemingly the same so they seem contradicting to me. 

Does any one here know what all the differences are for the three types of coconut products.