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Yes...I checked it out too & using Gateway is still cheaper for me... :-(

Oh well...

FINALLYY!!!!!Wax for "the rest of us" out west!!Yay!!!!

I have been using the 464 and am currently testing the 444. Basically I have scent throw issues with the 464 (in my opinion, but many of my buyers say its fine?!) and had heard great things about the 444 on this board. After LIMITED testing i can say this: the 464 is "easier to work with" and pours hotter BUT I got good initial results with the 444 by pouring at 150...not too bad! The tops were almost perfect at that temp and I got minimal initial frosting (don't know about longer term...still need to test!). I only had to wick up 1 size (cd12's to cd14's) which is also not too bad. Regarding hot throw...this is more difficult... from what I can tell, 444 has performed well and may throw a little better that the 464...but i really need to do side by side testing to be sure. Hope this helps and I hope others post!!

I just poured some testers and, so far, pouring at 150 for me (surprisingly)provided the best results...a 90% smooth top. The cooler i poured, the rougher the tops. My kitchen stays quite warm during the pouring process and i use 8oz tins. I was very happy with the results so far...now i just need to let the candles cure to test scent throw.

I have never had a batch of 464 or 415 turn brown after reheating it.

Me neither...?

I don't know about this company but I have to give a kudos to the company I use: onlinlabels.com. Allways in stock, super fast shipping and they give free samples on request. You may want to try them if you are not happy with your current company.

I will be testing the 444 as well soon (currently use the 464). I really am hoping for better hot throw on more scents. I wonder if there is a testing thread for this wax?? Haven't done my homework yet...

I have had to wick up with both 464 and 444. If you use Cd's its generally easy to get a feel with those wicks so it won't be that difficult to establish the size. I did like the hot throw better in the 444. It did flow through the room. I had to check the 464 periodically to see if the wicking was off because I could never smell after about an hour.

I have sketchy scent throw with the 464 with alot of scents...a few throw quite well but MOST do not...I waste alot of money on testers!! It sounds like the hot throw of the 444 is better. That would be great. I hope the 44 is not hard to wick...I had a super easy time wicking and working with the 464...which is why I have stuck with it so far. I am ordering a few pounds of the 444 as we speak, though. Thanks!

I haven't had any problems like this...but i have an unopened 50lb box at home right now.I will check it and see. For the people who have switched frm 464 to 444...how much are you having to wick up (generally)? I use cd 12's in almost all my scents with the 464. Accoring to the melt point of the 444 its seems I might have to wick up 1 size (approx). Is that about right?? Thanks!! I've been thinking of trying the 444 as well. Scent throw is REALLY hit and miss with the 464. But super easy to work with (for me at least!).

ICS Brown Sugar Pecan- you can really smell the "nuts", its not too sweet.JS Chestnuts and Brown Sugar- really strong but a little too sweet for me.Those are the only 2 I've tried. Good luck!!

Regarding scent throw...bes sure you "cure" your candles a MINIMUM of 1 week...and I mean 7 days!! ;-) More, if you can. I was a parrafin person and was sceptical about this whole "curing" thing at first (I thought it must be an urban myth or something!). But, sure enough...the longer you let it sit, the stronger it smells!! Some scents will just never work in particular waxes, though, no matter how long you cure. And some waxes are more "particular" than others. You just have to do alot of testing. Good luck!

Well...I use GB 464 and this looks about right to me...Soy candles just seem to set up ugly after burning. I was horrified too but got over it. None of my customers seem to mind. Good luck!

Thanks...I will check candlewic again. I'm not sure what kind of bottles they package their dyes in though...I think i read that they are not dropper bottles.

Thank you!!!

Does anyone know who is selling EVO dyes these days?? Candlewic only has 3 colors available (according to their website, anyway). After searching previous threads, I called Just By Nature and they confirmed that their liquid dyes were NOT Evo dyes. Northstar has a limited color selection as well (I urgently need at least 1oz of yellow). Anyone know of another supplier? I also did a google search with no luck. Thanks in advance....Lili

Another non-gusher here...I detest their website and will/can only order by phone. I think its unacceptable that you can't get an accurate shipping quote on their website. They also hassled me about some bad wick stickers and ALMOST didn't send me new ones...I had to argue around and around that the last batch I had received were defective as 8 out of 10 were coming unglued. They tried to tell me it was me...wash out the jars, pouring temp, etc. I tried to explain that I had been making candles for awhile and NOTHING HAD CHANGED in my "routine" so it had to be the stickers. After being very condescending to me they finally relented and sent me out a new roll...which worked FINE!!! All of $2.00. That left a very bad taste in my mouth. I prefer to deal with ICS who have been FLAWLESS to deal with so far.

I have burned it and i think it smells exactly like men's cologne. I don't think iy smells "herbal" at all. Some people like it but it doesn't sell well for me and I'm going to drop it from my "line".

I have found that pouring between 150 and 160 was the "sweet spot" with gb 464. Pouring under 150 actually caused more frosting and lumpiness for me. I have come to accept a little frosting around the edge of my tin. If (over time) I get more, I hit it with the heat gun and comes out pretty good. I also use the Evo dyes.

I "second" Pink Sugar, Japanese Plum and Raspberry Lemonade. All delicious, strong and good sellers. I also like/use Tulips & Currant...also a regular seller. For the holidays I started selling Brown Suger Pecan which smells DELICIOUS. But my best seller is Mango Papaya...I personally think its too sweet and doesn't smell "fruity" enough but people LOVE it. Go figure!

I am crossing my fingers they throw in my wax!!! I think I'll give them at least 1.5 weeks cure time, just to be sure. I may rename the coffe caramel cream 'caramel macchiato'.

I just poured:

cinammon toasted almonds

bedford falls

chipotle cracked pecan

coffee cramel cream

So far they all smell great but the coffee caramel cream stands out! It is delicious! Now I'm just praying for good hot throw (after 1+ week of curing,of course. My wax is very finicky for hot throw: gb 464). I ordered a total of 16 scents...all smell great oob, shipping was quick and inexpensive. Kudos for Candle Source!

Lili

Wow!! Thanks to everyone for all the ideas...sounds like everyone likes these oils!! I will definitely get a sample pack and try a bunch!! Thanks to everyone!!

Lili

I'm thinking of purchasing some samples and would like any feedback. I am using 100% soy wax (GB 464). I'm looking for some strong hot throwers! Am also open to any suggestion that are NOT on my list...thanks in advance!!!chipotle cracked pecans, black raspberry vanilla, cinnamon toasted almonds,coffee cramel cream, green apple, ocean mist, pears & petals, sun washed linen, french vanilla, grammy zucchini bread

I "second" Hyacinth Chula Orchid from JS...a very beautiful scent with good throw.

I never poured that hot before, but I'll try anything once. I have tried the oven thing and styrofoam coolers. The only thing that kind of works is putting my containers on the stove between the gas jets. I use a double boiler so it gets kind of warm there in between.

After this holiday season I might just go all natural and not color my candles or at least stay away from the dark colors.

Thanks,

Bob and DonnaMarie

I think this wax is supposed to be poured "hot." I've poured it as high as 160 and actually get better results than if i pour under 150. I'm glad I don't need any really special cooling procedure...!