With the 464 I used the full 10% (I don't know why, I usually stay around 7% 🙄), used 2.7 inch tins (8oz), CD 8 and CD 10 wicks, and poured 135, 130, and 110. NG recommended pouring at 110, which seemed ludicrous to me, and those are the ones that turned out the worst. The ones poured at 130 and 135 looked nice but they had no HT at all. Still, excellent CT. lol. I still light them every once in a while in the hopes that they'll actually throw... I wasted an entire bottle of one of my favorite scents 😭