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On 1/27/2020 at 2:11 PM, Lighten Up said:

Did they happen to give you anytime frame for that? I hope they warn us so I can stock up.

They always send out emails when they discontinue if you purchased that scent within the past year. 

I've chatted with them about this before. The formula itself did not change--the regulatory standards for personal care did, and very vanilla no longer meets them. 

Maybe this will help! https://candlescience.com/learning/how-to-use-the-ifra-certificate

18 hours ago, The Candle Nook said:

@pcbrook - same (about fresh coffee) 

 

...also, changing the wick in White Currant and seeing if anything gets better. So far,  HT hasn’t been much...

Shame you aren't getting good results with White Currant! It's been throwing beautifully for me. It didn't replace Red Currant btw, they still have Red. 

Adding any fragrance to any wax at temps that low is always going to risk it not going into solution with the wax. 

They're just ok to me. Certainly not worth the price. I tested out a couple in wax and the cold throw was minimal, hot throw was meh. 

I bought soy candles for years before I ever made them, it never occurred to me to be concerned about the rough surface after a burn. I've never had anyone mention it who has burned my candles. Personally it's not something I bother worrying with. 

Just throwing it out there as a suggestion. I love 464, it's a great wax that I don't feel needs to be blended with anything to get great results. Might be worth a shot if you're just experimenting with the wax you have.

Have you tried it without the beeswax? 464 is all I use, and I have great success with pouring hot for smooth tops and stellar glass adhesion. My sweet spot seems to be 155-160F. 

I do get those super thin circular cracks around the wick occasionally with certain jars. Usually when I'm not being careful with my pouring and pour too quickly. Tumblers seem to avoid getting that crack entirely, smaller mouthed jars of a similar height I see it happen more frequently. 

https://www.candlescience.com/phthalate-free-fragrance-oils-from-candlescience

CS is now completely phthalate free, here's the announcement. Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and reactions to the article and information. I was happy to see some more in depth info other than just "phthalates bad" and hear more about the science of fragrance. 

I LOVE Peppercorn Pomander. They described this one in one of their articles as "autumnal volcano" and that's pretty spot on. White Currant is awesome, not too sweet and not too tart. Tried Dulce de Leche on a whim, I do not usually like bakery scents, but it's delicious. Made me hungry!

8 hours ago, Jim said:

I have found pouring hot gets me perfect tops and not finding many cavities.  I've been reading that adding FO at that high of temperature in soy wax is affecting my hot throw.  Would you recommend adding at 120 and then pouring and just fix the tops?  Thoughts?

I personally wouldn't. You will not "burn off" fragrance adding it to wax that's under 200ºF. Fragrance oil is formulated specifically to be burned. Adding it low, the fragrance may not bind with the wax, risking seepage and/or poor throw. 

23 hours ago, CandleRush said:

Are these odor eliminators made differently than regular FO?

 

I don’t know much about them and was asked to make some melts for pet owners.

 

What is the difference between the eliminators and FO?

 

Just curious as usual🌸

 

 

Ok, I'm not a chemist and don't know exactly how this works, but true, actual odor eliminators do contain compounds that surround other odor molecules and trap them. So they aren't just scents that cover other scents up. In a recent article they posted, CS described how they tested the new odor eliminator by using old, used cat litter! https://www.candlescience.com/behind-the-scents-june-2019-fragrance-oil-revisions

On 6/26/2019 at 7:43 PM, NightLight said:

When I was using 464, I got great results pouring hot. The tops would pour completely smooth. You have tried mid temps, try hotter.

Yes. Pouring hot does the trick for me as well. I typically pour 464 at 150 or so, but I've poured as hot as 175ish when not paying attention and still had tops that were super smooth. This is just anecdotal, but I really believe the super viscous fragrances (Black Sea is one of them, lots of vanillin in that one) do a lot better mixed in hot and poured hot. 

Definitely curious to read your impressions. His video "debunking" cure time, and a lot of the advice he shares in general, gave me a major case of the eye rolls. 

464 is what I started with, and personally haven't ever felt the need to try anything else. I love it! In my experience it's a very, very easy wax to work with. I know some batches in recent years have given some folks trouble but I'm not one of them. Single pour, smooth tops, great throw. For me, that's all I need. 

Expect to see prices raised across the board. Shipping rates have gone up, suppliers have to factor that in. Tariffs have made some materials a lot more expensive, suppliers have to factor that in as well. 

I like CS Ocean Rose quite a bit! It's not a straight up traditional rose--which, frankly, I'm not a fan of--and stays nice and airy with the ozonic notes. 

There seems to be a lot of incorrect information being spread around by some popular chandlers on YouTube and the like about fragrance "burning off." So many beginners are being told to add fragrance at what, to me, are crazy low temperatures. 125ºF and even lower. Then they wonder why they have no hot throw when they follow this popular advice and are told it's defective wax or fragrance. 🤷‍♀️

Try CD wicks before giving up on the 444 or soy altogether. There's been some chatter that they're performing better with recent lots. I'm going to be testing the CD 18 and 20 myself this weekend in 464--I'd test out the 20 and 24 in 444. 

Don't concern yourself with the flashpoint of fragrances--it only matters if you're shipping fo by air. It has no impact on when you should add the fragrance to wax. 

I always add at 180/185 F with 464. Make sure you stir thoroughly for a couple minutes. How long are you letting them cure before testing?

CS Chocolate Fudge is soooo good. Smells just like brownie batter. I bet you could blend with a bit of Blood Orange and it would be fantastic. 

If you want to do a giveaway or contest, I'd go with Instagram instead of Facebook--make sure you look up and follow their rules for doing giveaways. That's where people are more and more instead of FB these days, and the better place for social selling. 

Wow...

45 minutes ago, Sarah S said:

 

Put a few drops on a cotton ball for the bottom of trash cans

 

This is genius. 

I think it's important to remember that companies offering free or very low shipping make up that cost somewhere. They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts--they'd be going out of business left and right! 

Candle supplies are heavy and often oddly sized. Heavy, oddly sized stuff is expensive to ship. Just the way it is.