Thanks for the info.......... could you tell me how much in terms of spoon fulls one ounce would be?? Approx??? I really don't make that big of batches at once. Now that I think of it (probably has been a year since I did pillars) I think I did use only 1 teaspoon of vybar. Gotta tell you that I love this site, lots of info here and tonnes of great ideas...... it has inspired me to get back into the pillars, try out a few new things....... I guess most of you are from the US, I am from British Columbia, up in Canada. Anyways, thanks again and nice to meet you.