Unfortunately, carol, those people aren't the only ones that think that way. I'm really sad that those people literally took their customers money - even if it was for charity... if I'm going to give money, I'm going to GIVE money but if I buy something, I want it to work... as for the opinion that it's just wick and pour and you're set - well I have people that come into my booth at craft shows and say "Oh, just candles" or "Not another candle place". They don't realize the kind of work that we put into our candles, that our natural wax candles (and even the para makers I know) are far superior to those things that they sell at the big box stores - and each one of us are different. I will go to a craft show and yes there will be other chandlers there but they have para candles or they have all container candles or they just have different scents than I do - we are all different... just like every painter or musician is different - but you wouldn't hear them say that Ozzy Ozbourne is the same as Enya or Picaso is just like Monet... geeze! Ok - I'm done ranting - what a way to come back to the message board (I haven't done research in a long time - been busy!!) LOL Oh well... I just have had some people really tick me off and to read this really ticks me off - I mean why didn't they offer to purchase wholesale from a *qualified* chandler and do their markup so next year when they want to run the same fundraiser they will have the repeat customers.... some people are really stupid! Life & Light! Tish