Greetings to all of the users on the candletech forum. I am the president of roteck.com, and I ran across this thread and had the opportunity to read your comments concerning 'Candlelady4ever's question. At roteck.com, all of our labels and label designs are based on customer requests and feedback. We added the candle jar section of our site about 6 months ago to assist one of our customers. The size and design of the label was to meet that customer's needs. With that history in mind, I'd like to take the opportunity to respond to comments I've read: True, currently all we offer is text on our pre-made designs. Our system has the ability for customers to upload images and logos on our other labels, but we haven't done so with the candle jar labels, as no one has given us any recommendations, where & how they'd like an uploaded image on the label. So please, feel free to fill out the contact us form on our website, and let us know what you are looking for. I can't guarantee that we'll be able to honor every request, and it may take a while for the changes to be implemented to our website - but our goal is to produce the label our customer's want on their products. Our biggest challenge tends to be making our website software easy enough for beginning web users, yet filled with options to satisfy the expert web users who are used to designing labels with complex software. When I read the 'highway robbery' comment, I think my heart may have stopped for a second, as I really took that comment to heart. At roteck.com, we pride ourselves in offering the highest quality products for the lowest possible price. As our manufacturing process has improved over the years, we have continually lowered our prices in the face of rising material and energy costs. All of our custom labels are laminated. Due to the fact we invented our manufacturing equipment, I don't believe there is anyone else in the world who can offer someone one sheet of laminated labels for a price anywhere near ours. A typical print shop would most likely be charging at least $30-$50 for a setup charge before they actually started talking about your individual label costs. From a candle jar labeling perspective, the lamination on the labels may not be as important as it is for our other customers. In our opinion, the lamination gives our cusotmer's products that professional look most 'store shelf' products have. If you're looking for a more rustic look - then lamination may not be for you. Our pricing (as of 10/8/05) actually starts at $2.25/sheet, and goes as low as $1.35/sheet as your quantity increases. Please note, that quantity doesn't require your labels sheets to be the same. Hence, many customers will order a dozen different sheets of labels, and their pricing level drops to $1.80/sheet. (Most inkjet printers will consume anywhere from $0.50 to $1.50 in ink when convering an entire page with ink.) If you've made it this far in my post, thanks for taking the time to read my comments. Once again, we'd love you hear some ideas from your group - and feel free to fill out our contact us page and request some samples - as we love to show off the quality of our labels. Regards, Jason Roteck www.roteck.com