candle_man

Glad things are working out for you, Candle_Man!

For safety, I would rather err on the side of underwicking than overwicking. A later FMP, a little hangup or residue left in the jar is a small price to pay for a container that doesn't become too hot to handle.

yes they, the small interludes do get a little warm with the eco4 but not too bad though as in the caution label you should never handle a hot or lit candle... but I will be ordering e smaller eco wick to slow it down a little.

Thank you for the good advice.

Hi Candle_Man

in the 8 ounce mason jars- are they the square ones by chance and what size eco did you use for that- the 14? I started with eco in that jar but got way to deep of a melt pool and alot of black from the wick swirling around in the wax- I use straight 464 as well. I went to the cd but hot throw is not that amazing and then bought the htp that I need to test still but I have ALOT of Eco's left and would love to try it again after hearing of your success!! I have been doing 1.6 oz/ per pound which could be the difference- I am told I use to much. Have any mushrooming problems at all?

I am very happy for your success!!

Thanks for any feedback you can give me

Yes they are the square masons and it is the eco14 wicks they seem too work perfect. I just used the CS wick guide.

WOW congrats. I am still tring different wicks for my 3oz tureens. Bt I use a 50/50 mix. Those little guys are a pita to wick

I am using the eco14 with those and pure 464 and seems to work vary well... It may be a little big but I do get a full melt pool.

I have found I love this wax, at first the only problems I had was frosting on the sides of the containers but not the tops and sink holes around the wicks. I solved most 99% of these doing the following... side frosting reduced to a min by keeping the room temp too and adv. of 80 deg. for 8 hours during and after pour. The sink holes by reducing pour temp to 120 deg. and gives perfect smooth even tops. I have used over 30lbs of this wax so far in containers of small to med large as the small libby interludes too the 12oz interludes and the 8oz masons as well as the 3oz tureen jars. The wicks I have used in those are the eco 4 on the small interlude and eco 14s on the others with great results with FOs load of 1.2oz per lb. the sent throw is amazing cold and hot!!! I sold a few diff. sizes to co workers and they all came back the next day and said that these are the best candles they have ever had from anywhere including the big name brands... wow. and they all said that it smelled up there whole house... one said they cold still smell it the next morning...

so now after only using IGI 4630 for a long time I am now only going to use this wax as it seems to perform better and looks better as well with less cost and easier clean up.

Just thought I would pass my findings along. Best wishes and Happy candle making.

I've had the same issue with a few FO's. Now I just try to always make sure I have plenty of ventilation. Some fragrances are mild or average OOB, but then surprise you by being almost overwhelming in a pour pot.

I had a coffee fragrance like that. I ended up throwing it away after just a few votives.

Candleman: I gotta admit, I love that frost! The blue looks absolutely gorgeous for winter! Which wax are you using?

I am using the GB 464, I do like the look but not for everything... I have tried everything to prevent it. Best I have been able to do is heat the room to 85deg. and still get a little frost. I think I will try the ecosoy advance next. Thanks

How many oz are they? I think you are on track with 1.00 an oz. But you also don't want to price them out of your market. Good Job.

They hold about 8oz each... Thanks

Those are beautiful. I've wanted to try that and always afraid of the glass not taking the heat. It's burning good for you?

Thank you, they burn great with a csn 14 wick. I chose these due to they are heavy thick walled glass made in the USA, bought at DT for a dollar each. I am thinking they should sell well at $9-10 each.... what do you think?

As a thought, it may be safer and easier to use if you add a s picket to the pot so you no longer have to pour out of the presto itself. I have two prestos both with spickets... it only adds about $7 in a valve and fitting. anyone you know that has exp. using a drill and the thread tap and put one on your pots in about 30mins.

just my two cents...

I got the bead,jewelry crimper today and works perfect just like a factory crimp. I probably paid too much for it from the craft store at $12 but for what I will save adding tabs to my wicks it is worth it.

This is what I use. Works GREAT! It's at JoAnn's. You could get it at a Michaels or whatever craft store is near you

http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?CATID=cat2115&PRODID=prd37408

Thanks Debbie, i will look for one tomorrow.

Hi all, I trying to find a good tool to use to crimp my wick tabs... as nothing I have found is working too well. Pliers only flat crimp that wont hold and then they dont fit my wick setter tool... Is there a special wick tab crimp tool? if so where can I get one? if not what are you all using to do so?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Hello all, I keep forgeting to order a wick trimmer when i order supplies and nail clippers dont seem to do well with large wicks such as the Eco-14... so today i was at wal-mart and was looking for a good substitute wick trimmer... I think i found one, a cuticle nipper... it is angled to cut the wicks horizontal compared to other home items and they are vary sharp. I found a pair for $8 not too bad and seems to do a nice job as well.

just thought i would pass my ideas along.

Happy candle making

Thank you all for the kind words. I was just looking for something different for the glassglo wax... and think I have found a winner.

Wow! I think they look amazing! Even with the frosting. The containers you used are beautiful too, where did you get them?

I did my first soy containers recently too, using the same kind as you. Your tops look so smooth and creamy! Mine don't look nearly as nice.

Also, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you:

1) What temp did you heat your wax to?

2) What temp did you add FO?

3) What temp did you add color?

4) What temp did you pour?

5) What kind of color did you use? (The colors are stunning! Mine didn't come out as nicely as yours)

I hope you don't mind me picking your brain, and I hope you don't mind sharing that info! Your candles really look great! Good job!

no I dont mind sharing my info/data as I hope it helps you and others..

wax heated to 180-185

added color at the 180s

added FO at adv 160-170

allowed to cool to 135 while the jars heated to warm to the touch then poured at 135... no cover over candles room temp was adv. 68-73 deg.

the color/dyes used in the photo was liquid dyes from CS, but believe that was causing the frost issues. Now am testing using dye chips to try and solve the frost issue... I thank you for the kind words and will post update/findings on the test.

There are alot of factors as to why soy frosts..I found with me, it was the coloring,I found that using liquid it frosted even worse than with the blocks. You will have to experiment like CandyBee said.

I personally think your candles look amazing..even with the frost. Good Luck.

Kim

Kim, I believe you are correct as out of the three candles in the photo the only one that did not frost was the pink/ red one as the red liquid dye used was an old cheap one i had from a craft store. The other two where liquid dyes from CS. Today I poured another candle using rediglo dye chips from CS and so far no frost and a better smoother top. I just poured another using the dye chips again and a different FO. So if the liquid dye is the culprit I will know in a day or so and will post the results.

Thank you

Thanks for sharing this. I went right to Dollar Tree and purchased some. I'm so happy to get rid of the newspaper counters.

Sue

No problem I glad it helps... I just finished pouring some candles using these, and what a difference. I wish I would have knew about these before...

Here is my latest ideas, glasses from DT and glassglo wax FO warm vanilla sugar color sand dye chips. Let me know what you think.

I was at the DT today looking for glassware ideas and found these cutting mats... i am using them to cover my pouring area to make drip clean up easier. they are aprox. 12x18 and you get 2 for a dollar... much better than what i have been using, brown craft paper, news paper, poster board etc...

just though i would share

thank you all for the help. yesterday i tried another candle with a different FO and color as well as trying to cool it slower... and it looked as if it worked, but several hours after it had totally cooled it started doing the same thing... only worse... why would it do this so long after it had cooled? is it possible that this is a mottle over frost? is it possible to somehow fix a problem like this as in re-heating the candle...

Wow, vary nice job!!! If I could only get the frost out of mine.... http://www.craftserver.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20952&d=1290295227

Hello all, last night I poured my first few jars using GB 464 with 6% FO. over all I am happy with the way it all worked out. So far the cold throw is vary good. I have not done any burn test yet. I am having one small issue though, I believe it is frosting on the sides? I am pre heating the jars warm warm to the touch and pouring at and adv 135 deg room temp at 68-72deg.. what is the typical cause for frosting? jars not warm enough, pour temp too hot/cold etc. Please see the photos and if you have any suggestions please let me know.

Thank you in advance.

Hello all, before I start I have read quit a bit here on the GB 464 as I have chosen to start with this wax. The more I read on it the more I am confused about wicks, coconut oil...etc. So this is what I was thinking of trying... the container will be a 8oz square mason jar, ECO wick maybe a 14 but know I will have to test. Some have mentioned to coconut oil to get the best scent throw If this is a good idea or needed where can I get it at as I dont see it on either CS or LS web sites that I plan to order from? the scents I will be starting with are from CS pumpkin souffle, macintosh apple and a few others all strong scents.

Any opinions or recommendations would be vary helpful on the above.

Thank you in advance for your help.

I am new to soy wax and looking for a little help/advice on making a choice between the golden brands 464 or 444 for containers, as well as wicks for containers 2.75" to 3.25" round glass. Basically I would like to know what you all have found to work the best... I also live in a vary humid part of the country Fla. so if humidy causes problems with soy or causes frosting please let me know and what can be done about it. I was looking at the eco wicks? are they a good choice?

thank you in advance for your help and advice.

mark

the insulation keeps the outside cool and heat in... and does not cycle on and off to keep the temp up..... lot less power use

I thought I might add to this topic a little of my own creation... I used a presto from wallyworld and added a tap/spicket... and also insulated it with fiberglass insulation with foil backing from the plumbing dept of the hardware store or home desperate.... i added a few pics

if anyone is interested how to make one of these i would be happy to do a step by step directions/article just let me know or have one of the mods tell me what to do...

the insulation makes a big difference and really holds the heat and prevents burns...

let me know i would like to help, i have two of these set-ups and love them