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Thanks for your input makes me feel better to see somebody is using it.

Hi everybody I have not been on here for a long time. Thought I would give candles another try. I have been reading through the post here and never see any thing about joy wax and was wondering why! Does anybody use it and if so how do you like it? I bought 10 lbs. of it because someone told me how they had used it years ago and liked it. I am beginning to think that I should not have bought any since I see nothing on here about it. I would appreciate any responses. Thanks.

Hi everybody I have a question has anybody purchased from candle science their IGI 4794 lately?? I have been afraid to buy it from them because the last time I did after I burned my tarts (which right on their site it says can be used for tarts ) they would harden all bumpy and ugly. I had been getting this wax from them for years and had never had this problem before. I called and was told it is not to be used for tarts. Well then why does it say so on their site??? I was told I would have to put 10 -15% soy in with it to remedy the problem. I do not want to have to do that since I never had to before. I think there was something different about this lot# of wax I don't want to take the chance and pay all of the shipping again just to have it happen all over. :undecided

Hi I was just wondering if any others have noticed the difference in CS 4794? I have been using it since 2008 and this last 60 lbs is the first time I have had this happen. I make tarts and after they burn and cool the wax is all rippled and does not look smooth and nice like it always has previously. I have not done anything differently so can not understand what is going on. Heather at CS told me that you are not suppose to use this wax for tarts but as I said before that is all I have used since 2008 and never ever had this problem. It even states on their web site that this wax can be used for tarts so I don't understand! thanks for any input:rolleyes2:wink2:

I also think that it was very nice of you to offer advice to her and try and help her out. That is the problem today everybody is just out for themselves. That's great that your kids are seeing you do these things hopefully they will grow up and do the same. Keep up the good work!!

I understand but it isn't as simple a question as you might think... I don't think that either supplier is necessarily right nor wrong because this depends on the wax in which the wick is burning. While a wick might burn hotter or cooler in the air, that's not how we use it - we use wicks in wax, so the kind and blend of wax in which the wick is burning makes a difference.

CS is a decent supplier and I feel sure they did not intend to mislead you in any way. Suppliers have opinions and make mistakes like everyone. While they are certainly expected to know more than the average person about candlemaking, they do not know everything and often are mistaken about some of their statements.

You are certainly not a "dumb bell" nor are you incorrect for feeling confused when you get two opinions which differ 180° from one another! Honestly, the best thing to do is to purchase a sampling of small sized wicks from different manufacturs and test them in YOUR wax system to see what works best for YOU. I'm not being facetious here - people can have very different opinions and outcomes even using the same materials, so it really IS important to check these things out for yourself. HTH & good luck!

I still have not gotten an answer as to how you can tell which burns cooler. Is the way to tell by how quickly all the wax is melted in your tea light cup? Last night I light 2 different ones, the first burned out after not quite 4 hours ( this was the cotton one) and the other had well over an hour to go when I blew it out.( the zinc one) So does that mean the later one burned cooler?? I am just using 4794 wax and it had no Fo in it. I know this is a stupid question but I just want to understand. Also what is the best thing to use to glue your tea light wicks to the cup with?? Thank you

Did you not understand the lesson? PLASTIC MELTS AND IS FLAMMABLE, period. It doesn't matter HOW MANY people you ask for their wicking opinions, the basic fact remains unchanged: you are making candles in a flammable holder.

Sure, some wick materials burn hotter than do others, but the bottom line is that they all have flames. A tealight is a tiny candle. You cannot control the way it is burned by customers. Why not get some of the smallest wicks of whatever kind available and TEST THEM FOR YOURSELF?

I just asked a simple question as to which burns cooler or hotter that's all. I do not plan on using the plastic holders anymore. I wanted to know which supplier is giving me the right information that's all. I do not like the idea of a supplier giving me the wrong info. seeing they are suppose to know what they are selling. I do not know what it means my burning hotter or cooler and how you can tell so I being a dumb bell asked for an answer. It is that simple that's all I wanted to know.

:angry2:It's me again I have been told by two different suppliers two different things. One supplier told me that the zinc tea light wicks burn cooler than the cotton so I ordered some. After having the tea light cups catch fire I decided to try another supplier and ask them which tea light wicks burn cooler and they told me cotton! So come on which is it I am totally confused now. Please can somebody help me and also does burning cooler mean that the wick burns longer? I am not an experienced candle maker as you can tell I just have been trying on and off to make some candles that I can burn here in my house. Thank you again for you expertise advice I appreciate it very much.:smiley2:

"100% flame resistant polycarbonate plastic."

Did you contact Candlescience to see what they say?

No I have found their customer service to have gone down hill since Diane is no longer there. I have had other issues with them so I just don't bother because I feel I will get no where anyway and I will just get more upset.

Darn, I just ordered a box of 100 of those cups from CS too. I've been so torn on plastic vs. tin. I don't sell tealights, I just use them for any extra wax after pouring. Then i give them away as thank yous or use them myself. After reading this, I'm going with the tins next time!!

I know how you feel only I had ordered 1000 don't know why just thought they would last for ever and I guess now they will.

No did not and since Diane is not there I have found their customer service is not the same. I have had other problems with them so I just do not bother.

:smiley2:Good Morning everybody hope you all have a nice Friday! I have had 2 of my Candle Science plastic tea light containers catch on fire! I am using zinc wicks 28-24 which I was told burn cooler than cotton wicks. Both times it happened they were in an open hanging tea light burner from Yankee. I know somebody wrote a couple of weeks ago that they had a problem but said theirs was in a closed burner if I am not mistaken. I find this very scary and thought that those TL cups were suppose to be safe. Has anybody else had this happen using the ones from candle science? I am wondering now if it is just better to use the tin ones that you get when you purchase them in the store by the bag. The plastic look so much nicer and are actually a little bigger so that your candle burns longer though. I suppose that the ones candle science sells are the same ones the others suppliers sell also eh? Well thanks for any input.:smiley:cheesy2:

thanks for the info Stella

Thanks Stella that makes sense.

Hi :smiley2:all I have been using LX 10 wicks for votives and realized it is much cheaper to buy by the spool. So I did and primed them in the 4974 wax that I am using for my votives. Well I was so disappointed because they do not burn nearly as nice as the ones I buy already primed. Can anybody give me any pointers as to why or what I may have done wrong. Is it because I am using the wrong wax to prime them in? I read that the ones you buy are primed in a higher melt temp. wax does this make the difference? The flames flickers and I get mushrooms that I did not get using the ones already done. I know a lot of you prime your own and was hoping somebody could help me out.

Black Raspberry Vanilla smells like cat piss to me - but other people like it so it must be me!!

That respond my my day I had a good laugh which I needed!

How much vanilla fo do you all think should be added to a cappuccino fragrance oil to make it vanilla cappuccino. I remember being told along time ago that vanilla is a very strong scent and also cinnamon. I don't want to add too too much and then over power the cappuccino. I would appreciate any input as I am no pro like the majority of you all who can help us that are not.:smiley2:

:smiley2:I was wondering if anybody knows of a vanilla cappuccino scent. I bought a soy candle from integrity candles of that scent and it smelled soooooo good.Thanks

:angry2:I used to purchase my tea lights from Bed,Bath & Beyond and noticed through the years how you were getting less and less wax. I was interested in who made these tea lights and read they were from Colonial Candle. The last time I bought a bag of 100 I noticed the price above the bags said $5.99 but I was charged only $4.99. After getting them home and taking them out of the bag to burn one I noticed how the little tin cups were less deep than the last ones and also thinner. With one the wax leaked out all over my burner. I looked on the back of the bag because the front of the bag looked the same as always. I found out that these are now made in Vietnam. I think it's kind of sneaky how they did that. Just was wondering if anybody else used their tealights? I don't know where you can purchase half way decent ones without paying an arm and a leg. I used to buy bags of 100 all the time and they really did burn for 4 hours. Those days are gone!! Well I just had to vent thanks.

:smiley2:Hi can somebody please tell me the difference between these two wicks.

STABILO 14 & CDN 14. I got them both from Wicks Unlimited. I thought that STABILO 14 was a CDN so I am confused. Thanks

I used them for a spring craft/rummage sale. I had no problems with them at all but I might use a different wax than you. I use a soy/para blend. I also did not use CD wicks. I wicked them as I wick my 16oz apothecary jars...if that helps. My apoth jars are the ones from The Candlemakers Store. They are not 4" across but more like 3-5/8 or so. Even with the bit of difference in the jar size/shape I got a really nice burn out of them w/the same size wick.

HTH

I was just thinking wouldn't it be helpful maybe to mention the type of wick you used?

Just from one look, or over time? Just one candle, or all of them? Just one color or FO or all of them?

There is no way to conclusively answer your question. Ask your friend 's daughter-in-law what wax she uses.

She would not tell and yes it is all of them. She never has a problem with frosting that is why I am thinking it is a blend and not all soy. I am no expert so that is why I wanted other opinions.:smiley2:

I have a friend who said her daughter-in-law makes pure soy candles. My question is that none of her candles ever get frost and is this possible?? From all I have read here on this forum is you can not prevent it 100% of the time. I have seen her candles and there is never ever any frost. I have my doubts but was wondering what you all think!:undecided

not really I mean they are not completely even across the top they go in a little in the middle but then so do the ones from Yankee

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