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swizzling is stirring the remelted wax in the final container. Images resized.

If you're not a purist, you can add the dye chip to your presto pot or double boiler for a better chance of a full melt. You can also melt the dye in a spoon junkie style with a lighter before adding to the wax .

Just curious, why use a whole pound of wax for a tester? Seems like a lot of wasted wax if things go wrong... just a thought

Maybe the warm jar is not working? I have much better luck with cooler jars, but that may be just me. If this is the only way you get them to look good then be sure to not cut your wicks first. I can remember doing this in the old days, remelting in the jar and it worked sometimes and sometimes it didn't and looked lots worse. But I never took notes and don't know if I melted all the way when they looked bad or what the difference was. But if your doing a bunch at a time the cost might not be that bad? Good luck.

First thank you all for the timely and useful replies! I have tried using room temp jars - the wax solidifies instantly from a 105 degree pour and looks perfect but then I get massive wet spots sometimes. I will try cooling them more slowly because I love the "insta-smooth tops and sides" effect from pouring cool into cool jars. The warm core just needs to be cooled more slowly, I believe. Thanks again for the experience and information!

Hi all and happy Saturday. I am about 3 months in to soy candles using GB 444 with 6% FO, light dye, 1/2 tsp UVI and 1 tsp coco oil per Lb. I use color chips (although they are tough to dissolve completely) and sometimes liquid dyes, but prefer no dyes since they seem to contribute to frosting. I add dye first out of the melter and then FO from 140-150, stirring constantly, then pour around 100-110 in warmed containers. (I have tried all other temps for pours). I then oven or styrofoam cool on wire racks. I still usually get frosting, so I have been remelting the candles, "swizzling" them with popsicle sticks, and oven cooling them again. Voila! No frosting, rough tops, or wet spots (usually) :DMy question is, am I basically tempering the wax by remelting and slow cooling again? Why the heck do I get frosting with 6% FO and 1 dye chip when I stir CONSTANTLY and pour cool? 2 oven cools seems like a lot of energy for an attractive soy candle. Does anyone have a single pour technique for GB 444 that is working better for them? I love this wax for throw and burn and want to keep it. Your assistance is valued and yes I promise I did several searches on tempering and remelting before posting this question.

Thanks,

Bill

It might help to know what kind of soy...for containers or pillars. Does it have a name? You should get a good paraffin if you want good candles. I don't do soy, but there are some threads around here on different mixtures...

It is listed as 100% container blend soy wax. I will invest in a good container paraffin...

Hello all,

I have 25 pounds of pure soy lying around that I found just too difficult to work with. I would like to mix some paraffin in to make a 70/30 mixture to experiment with. Is grocery store paraffin ok, or should I order something else? :undecided

Thanks,

Bill

Thanks, and please post your results if you get around to testing. This seems to be the Alaska of candlemaking for now...

Oh yeah... I'm burning CS Cranberry marmalade - stellar.

OT's White Witch. My 1st tester didn't throw well so I changed types of wicks and WOW -- what a nice fragrance.

(a blend of Essential Oils and Fragrance Oils including Patchouli, Frankincense, Myrrh, Sandalwood, Vanilla, Musk, a tiny bit of Rose and more.)

This is new info to me. How does the wick affect throw? I had read that hot throw comes from the melt pool. Which wicks did you change from and to? Sorry so many questions...

I poured it in 444 1oz/lb and it smells amazing...

How about Peak's White Tea and Ginger? Delicious and good throws.

I find that liquid dyes increase frosting in soy wax - so I tend to use dye chips and blocks. In order to get the color to mix well, I will melt down the dye before - typically in a spoon over a flame - so that it blends well with the wax since you pour soy at such a low temperature.

I've found that Bitter Creek (north) is one of my favorite suppliers. They have a huge selection of liquid, dye blocks and dye chips. A couple other places that I like are www.candlescience.com and www.candlesandsupplies.com

I hope that helps - happy candle making!

-Daria Blue

Thanks for that killer tip, Daria! I may just have cheap liquid dye but I found more frosting issues than with the chips. The dye spots had me confounded until now!

I am new here. As I posted in the general forum I used to do paraffin and soy candles but got tired of the soot with paraffin so went to mostly natural. I say mostly because I read in this thread that you use CO in your wax...... Have you ever tried Coconut Wax? There are a couple distrubuters here in Cali I get mine from. I mix 3/4 soy with 1/4 cc and get wonderful candles and great hot and cold scent throw! Just a little FYI. Nice to meet you all.

Nice to meet you too! I found some from Swan's - is that who you use? Have you tried using their blend straight, instead of mixing it with soy? Please elaborate, I am really interested in this wax and am ordering some right now

Thanks to this thread we are using 1tsp CO per lb of GB 444... So far much better tops and cohesion! Will keep good notes and update as necessary.

Hi all. I have been avidly reading the forums here and my head is spinning!

Also my credit cards seem to be getting a workout. Must have the bug.

I purchased a good amount of FO's but also many essential oils just to goof around with since the concept of an aromatherapy candle intrigued me. My first attempt was Grapefruit oil and I wanted to share the result hoping I can get some feedback from others who may also be trying these great oils out.

1/2oz Grapefruit EO in 1lb EL Millenium wax added@150degrees poured @130degrees into warm containers, oven cooled. Florida climate. No dyes of course.

The oil immediately roped together and fell to the bottom of the pour pot when added to the wax. (Should I try polysorbate maybe?) I mixed it as best I could and poured.

My 1st test burn was 2 days later. (I know, too soon but I was impatient) Good burn but very very light smell, though true and not fuel scented. The last inch smelled stronger, closer to what I was looking for. I moved on to other obsessions for a while. I checked cold throw a week later, still disappointing.

3 weeks later I happened to open up one of the remaining 2 candles. The cold throw was delicious and 3/5 strong! I am test burning now and the hot throw is much improved also, although I'm detecting a hint of fuel smell. I would label the experiment a moderate success.

More oils to come as I have time (pesky job gets in the way), hopefully with pictures.

Thanks Kigers24 for the excellent information!

Please forgive my ignorance, but which supplier is SB? I could not find them on the abbreviation list... TIA