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Hello,

I am interested in the COCO 83 from either Cal Candle Supply or North Star. I am in a coconut wax group on Facebook, who have been giving me different answers about each company's wax and I am just looking for an honest and accurate answer to promote my business launching soon. I did ask both companies, but still have yet to hear back and I can't wait, so wanted to come on here and ask. Would anyone be kind enough to let me know if this is ALL coconut wax or a blend? If so, can you explain what the blend is specifically? 

I would also like to know if the following applies to the COCO 83. Some of these may not even apply at all, so please be kind as I am still learning! Thank you so much.


1.) All-natural

2.) Biodegradable

3.) Cruelty-free

4.) Eco-friendly

5.) Gluten-free

6.) Kosher

7.) Lead-free

8.) Non-GMO

9.) Organic

10.) Paraben-free

11.) Phthalate-free

12.) Renewable

13.) Sulfate-free

14.) Sustainable

15.) Vegan

16.) Zinc-free

I am torn between Flaming Candle's Fruit Loop vs Nature Garden's Fruit Loop. Which do you like best? They both got similar reviews and similar prices, but wondering if anyone on here has sensed a difference. TIA!

12 hours ago, TallTayl said:

Hi and welcome!

 

What wax is the most eco friendly is kind of a philosophical question. None are if you think about it.  there’s a cost to growing, harvesting, extracting, stabilizing, packaging and distributing the wax. a lot depends on where you are, and how that wax gets to you. All are about equally good and bad as far as carbon footprint and such.  In the end, paraffin is probably one of the least troubling as it is using a super cleaned, inert fraction of petroleum oil from waste that is already being produced, versus throwing it away as garbage. It is made of plants and dinosaurs so it is as “natural” as soy.
 

Palm wax gets a terrible rap thanks to the soy lobby.  It is a wonderful natural wax and is less damaging to the planet than soy. 
 

Even “natural soy” is pretty unnatural when you consider how much chemical fertilizer and Roundup is sprayed to grow it  then there’s the hexane required to extract the oil from the beans. That oil is then hydrogenated to make it into a familiar feeling, convenient wax. additives and chemicals to stabilize are required so it will hold the amount of fragrance most candle makers want to use and look pretty.  

you could use beeswax, but then bees are harmed. With colony collapse and the new Murder Hornet killing hives we are running out of options... 

 

Oh, yeah, if you are adding fragrance (including essential oils), it is not natural either, so I guess I’m saying don’t over think it. Just make a safe, clean burning candle and you’re going to achieve your goal. 

 

Thank you for your response! And thank you to the OP for the question. I am new to candle making, too. In fact, I have coco 83 coming in the mail and purchased this because I heard good things about it after initially thinking of going to 464 route. I also want to promote the most healthiest candles, too - to whatever lengths that would be. Coco 83 has been promoted as all-natural and Cal Candle Co. just informed me that it is vegan, all-natural, but not organic. I hear this wax has palm in it, but their site does not say it does. All very confusing.