Wax Boy

On 9/8/2021 at 6:14 AM, TallTayl said:

I use white beeswax from Strahl  & Pittsch with midwest soy. 2-3% I found works well to stabilize the Midwest enough to prevent seeping.  Any more WBW and you risk wick issues, but definitely test your FO to be sure what is ideal for your candle. 
 

Even at low % Midwest alone is pretty unstable, especially when ambient weather conditions change like in my area, and during shipping. 

 

I melt to 185, hold a few minutes, and blend well before scenting and coloring (if used). I cool the wax to about 105*F before pouring to prevent nasty sinkholes and cavities. Having to heat gun and fill cavities takes too much time and wrecks the prime on the wicks, so I cool first. The quickest way I found was to stir the pour pot down to temp in front of fans. Keep stirring to prevent blobs of wax from forming on the pour pot.  American Soy Organics uses cooling jackets on their melters to get the temps down on a commercial scale. 
 

I use white beeswax from strahl  & Pittsch specifically as I found others are inconsistent, and do not burn or throw as well as the S&P.  American soy Organics sells the S&P beeswaxes, so pretty convenient all in all.
 

When you order cases of wax from ASO (and any other wax supplier) ask if they will throw extra tape around the seams of the cases, and a belt of tape around the box.  The cases always arrive broken from the amorphous bag of wax inside stressing the box. 

Wow TallTayl thanks for the detailed instructions!! Luckily for me I live just a few miles away from CandleSoylutions in Oregon so I can pick up my order.

3 hours ago, TallTayl said:

EcoSoya closed up years ago leaving a lot of people stumbling around. The newly re-released version I have heard nothing about yet. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 

if I were to go back to soy, C3 has always treated me well. Midwest soy with a small amount of beeswax is nice after a decent cure. C1 with a little midwest and coconut wax worked very well for my tins. 
 

ultra core wicks have been around for a very long time.  They are not all that and a bag of chips by any means. They work well with some waxes (mostly paraffin) in some applications, but are no magic wick. They seem to be what BBW uses in many of their candles. If you like how those paraffin candles burn then you may like the ultra cores. 

I've been interested in blending midwest and beeswax. What percentage of beeswax are you doing? Does it help with the frosting of the midwest?

On 10/8/2020 at 9:16 AM, Anna_Sapphic said:

I agree, I think a lot of it had to do with my temps not being high enough. I raised them a little when I did my top pour and they came out much better (though not perfect).

 

Really wish I could find another source for the modifier, even if it's just the stand alone ingredients and not the branded stuff. 

I have 1lb of ASO Soy Modifier. If you PM me your address I will ship it to you.  I am using a different kind of wax and don't need it. I have an ASO supplier in my town so it's very easy for me to get if I needed some.

6 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

I will say freedom wax is really easy to use.  Seems like the additives are successful to keep it adhered to glass vessels well, and the tops are smooth. Apparently, that is what many customers seem to want. Well, that, and hold a lot of FO. It ticks those boxes just fine.

millennium wax is pretty. It, too, was easy to pour. I could not coax enough Ht from it, especially given the price.  I even bought their FO and use their recommended wicks 🤷🏻‍♀️

fortunately for me I have a supplier in my town. Not having to pay for shipping makes my decision easier

1 minute ago, TallTayl said:

well, someone should change their website then, lol.

 

it feels and performs just like plain old 464 to me. It melts and pours fine, I just don’t get performance from it like I do other waxes. It is a good starter wax before someone gets into blending additives needed for Midwest soy.

That's to funny. I use Millenium which I love. I thought I would try this new amazing freedom which I didn't love..lol. kinda shady they would tell me on the phone, no its not 464.

On 6/19/2020 at 8:33 AM, TallTayl said:

Working on the first series with American Soy Wax 464/Freedom wax now. Will be sure to post once they are ready.

 

The only certainty about candle making is nothing is guaranteed. Every single variable makes a big difference.

TallTayl, I played around with freedom wax for a bit. Do you like it? I noticed you say 464/freedom? I specifically asked ASO if freedom was 464 in disguise and they denied it.

I will definitely share my thoughts after I complete some more testing.  As of now i get completely different results every pour. All processes and room temps are the exact same. I took a break to clear my mind and get a fresh start. 

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.