MarlaSinger

2 minutes ago, Jcandleattic said:

My NG Fruity Rings got a tad lighter over time, but not enough to say it faded. I can still smell it a year later, so that's good enough for me. I have also never used RE's Fruit Loops, but did try Aztec's and it sticks in my soap as well. 

Do you by chance remember what FO % you used in your fruit loops soap?

Shari, did it fade on you? That was the number 1 complaint on the reviews for the NG Fruity Rings. Everyone said it smells wonderful but it faded to zero really fast.

Has anyone tried Rustic Escentual's Fruit Loops Type in CP Soap? There is no information or reviews on their site about it unfortunately.

I'm putting in an order with RE and NG for others things and I have a custom request for a Fruit Loops scented CP soap. The reviews on NG all say theirs fades horribly in CP. 

I have RE Christmas Past and I would like to rename it to something that isn’t “christmasy” so that I can continue to sell it after the holidays. This is the scent description directly from the RE site:

”This is the closest you'll get to a true Christmas tree scent without cutting down one! Bring the wonderful holiday scent of a tree into your home.”

I’ll be honest, to me that description is nothing like what I smell. I love the scent but I pick up more of a spicey potpourri with pine/christmas trees being more of a subtle note in the mix. It reminds me of when I was little walking into an old country gift store than sells potpourri and candles and penny candies and odd and end gifty things all year long... where the entire store kind of has that permanent spicy and pine potpourri smell. 

Any ideas of what I could call this scent? 

I ended up getting a 2oz size of both of the RE birthday cakes to compare and OOB I can barely tell the difference. I haven't put them in wax yet, that is on the agenda for next week.

Right off the bat (and again, this difference is very minimal), I think the KY is a touch sweeter smelling, kind of in a bubblegum way, and the regular may be a tiny bit more buttery. I'm interested to see if there is a bigger difference once in wax.

Awesome! I'm putting in a RE order this evening for more wax so perfect timing!!!! Thank you 

Very cool! Those turned out fantastic!! 

On 10/7/2017 at 9:36 PM, Clear Black said:

 

No im not set on it being an oil, wasnt sure if there was another method. But as Marla pointed out, maybe Poly-20 would work.

 

 

Any idea what % to add the Poly-20 in at?

It is typically used in a 1:1 ratio with your fragrance oil. Mix the two together well and then add in your water. Note that a lot of FOs will turn the mixture white/milky when using P20.

Another option is Fragrance & Essential Oil modifier from WSP. This one does not turn white when used correctly and works the same way (binds your oil & water), however the ratio is 4 parts modifier to 1 part FO. And this really only pertains to body products but as a side note, when you use poly 20 you have to list it as an ingredient; when you use the modifier you don't because it is considered part of your proprietary fragrance formula and therefore is just listed as "fragrance" in your ingredients.  

If given the choice, I prefer the modifier because it remains clear when I make room & body sprays.

My birthday is in January and I really really really want to do birthday cake wax melts for my customers all month. In your opinion, who has the best Birthday Cake FO? I'm using KY ParaSoy for wax melts. 

Adding Polysorbate 20 would probably work

Pondering random things while sipping my morning coffee, bare with me...

...Would there be any benefit to adding stearic acid to wax melts? For example, I'm using KY Parasoy wax in clamshells. I would love to do stand alone shapes but I live in a very hot/humid area and sell at covered open-air markets so the shapes don't hold up as well as I would like; and I wouldn't trust them to ship well in the summer. Would adding stearic acid help solve that issue?

Also, my wax has a 10% fragrance load. Would stearic acid increase that? 

And and and... I read that stearic makes wax shrink when they cool. Would this make the wax pop out of a warmer plate easier?

And and and... 

...I'm out of coffee now.  😜

7 hours ago, jbradshaw said:

I'm about to place an order from Candlescience and just thought I'd check to see if there were any can't miss fall or holiday scents I should check out...

 

Here's what i've got:

White Birch

Cranberry Woods

Frasier Fir

Toasted Pumpkin Spice (which has to come all the way from north carolina which is a bummer for this utah girl)

pumpkin caramel crunch (trying this based on Trap's rec)

 

I've already got mulled cider and chestnuts (not impressed OOB), Amaretto Nog, Red hot cinnamon, apple and maple bourbon, blue spruce.

 

Anything else? 

White Birch is fantastic! Cinnamon Chai is nice. I haven't tried it in wax yet (I got it as a free sample) but it gets good reviews.

1 hour ago, TallTayl said:

I use the warm to lowest number setting. I turn it down/off when the wax is about 75% melted and stir to let it all reach the same temp.  With my wax, I find if it is all clear the temp is too high.

 

i put a lid on with soy and beeswax. If really worried, you could prop it open with your spatula/spoon/whatever 

Thanks!!

Hello! I bought myself a Presto Pot (no spigot, just straight from Walmart) for melting my wax. I have a couple questions...

1) What temperature setting do you use for the initial melting? I'm using KY Parasoy. I assume after it is melted down you can lower the temp to keep it warm.

2) I read on the endless internetz somewhere that when using it to melt wax, you should not have the lid on it. Is this true? If so, why?

18 hours ago, Jcandleattic said:

You can always email the CPSC and ask them. 

 

cpsc-os@cpsc.gov

That's a good idea  

2 hours ago, Jcandleattic said:

I could be wrong, it's been a while since I read her book, or her blog, but I could have sworn it was there. hmm, try this - 

This is mainly for candles, but may help. 

http://candles.org/fire-safety-candles/read-the-label/

Thanks  I had actually JUST come across that very page not two minutes ago right before I logged on here! It seems it is all candle specific though. I just want to make sure I'm not unknowingly mislabeling my melts when I create the labels. Maybe the Powers That Be haven't looked at melts much yet? I completely understand the regulations on candles so I can see that melts are likely less of a liability and in less in need of regulation, but I don't want to assume anything.
 

2 hours ago, birdcharm said:

I think it would be good to have a label that not only tells the name of the creator, weight of the product, the name of the scent, if e/o's are used, but also some precautionary advice.  I've seen little labels that say "not for consumption," or "not edible," etc.  It might also be good to say to not set scented wax on a lacquered surface, or other tips for use.  Of course, instructions for use is something that should be there.  I've never seen that there are specific regulations regarding this product in the U.S.

 

 

I was honestly expecting there to be some sort of regulations and very surprised that I haven't come across any yet (and may be overlooking them, I don't know. I can only find hints of stuff for candles) The soap & cosmetic industry is so very specific on what has to be on labels that I assumed there would be some basics *at least* that are required. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious but heck if I want to spend time and money designing/printing labels and then find out I'm not following rules and have to scrap them! 

I got Plum Tart as a freebie sample today from Rustic Escentuals and it smells wonderful. The description says is has some cinnamon in it but it smells way more plummy to me than spice. I'm excited to try it in melts. 

3 hours ago, Jcandleattic said:

For labeling regulations on many products, you can't beat Marie Gale's book and blog. Yes, a lot of the info is for B&B but she has other labeling regulations on there as well. 

 

http://www.mariegale.com/

 

Thank you for that link. I have been hunting around on there and I must be overlooking something. So far I haven't found anything pertaining to or mentioning any regulation of wax melts. Is there a way to find it aside from the search? I have "searched" for anything I can think of related. The closest connection I can find is GMP but I was more curious to know things like what has to be on labels, warnings, etc. Does the US have regulations similar to the CLP Compliance in EU? I'm lost! 

15 hours ago, Belinda said:

I would say at least a week. I've used this wax on it's own and also mixed with their granular all paraffin wax. I love the creamy look of it. It has great cold throw in my opinion but I like more paraffin so when I use it I mix more paraffin so it's at least 75%-80% paraffin and I don't have to let it cure as long. I'm not very patient LOL!

Thank you!

Do you mind if I ask what the additional paraffin does? 

I have KY Para-Soy from RE and unlike most of their other waxes, they don't state an ideal cure time for this particular wax. I know the FO can alter it a bit but in general, what would be the average cure time for making melts with this wax?

 THANKS! 

Soapers Choice (aka Columbus Foods).

Hellooooo! 

What are (if any) the regulations within the USA for making and selling wax melts? 

The only thing I have heard mentioned by makers is being "CLP Compliant" but as far as I can tell, that is for selling in Europe. Are there any such regulations within the US and if so, who oversees it? 

11 hours ago, Trappeur said:

I got mine at Maple street...had good pricing and they are nice too.

 

Trappeur

I agree. They have great prices and very helpful. And regular sales!

Most are in clamshell containers. I also have some in the small portion cups. I'm mostly trying to sort out a way to display the ones in clamshells