SouthernGal Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have big lips, lol. I can't live without really good lip balms and lipsticks Recently I've been having a really hard time finding anything that works. In fact, I just started using Deep Renewel Blistex and it seems to be making my lips worse. In the past I've used Burt's Bee, Neosporin Lip Health and others but they make my lips peel. I use Mary Kay or Bareminerals lipstick and they work better than most dept store brand lipsticks for me. But I hate to wear lipstick to bed, kwim?I don't make bath & body products but I just wondered if any of you who are really experienced in creating lip balms would know what kind of ingredients I need to look for in a product that works and what I need to stay away from. Tia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyTru Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 My lip balm is aloe butter, beeswax, avocado oil and vitamin e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernGal Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Thanks! Does Aloe butter contain coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyTru Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 My lip balm is aloe butter, beeswax, avocado oil and vitamin e.I second that! Anything with Aloe is just magic in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se2653 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Sweetcakes' lip balm base is wonderful, very moisterizing- easy to melt and mix with flavorings if you want. I'm hooked on it! I put it on every am and pm- (use lipstick during the day) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 If you're not sensitive to lanolin, it's the one thing that I've found to be very soothing when all else fails. It's an ingredient in Burts Bees formulation for instance. I've used it neat when chapping got the best of me with fast relief. It goes on a little sticky, so use sparingly. Lansinoh may be available in your area in the mommy aisle at your local department store. It's marketed for nursing moms, so safe for use around the lips (approved for use where breastfed babies latch on). Jojoba also seems to work well in a blend IME.In total agreement with those who mentioned beeswax and vitamin E. A gel cap of vitamin E may help in a pinch. Puncture the gel cap and smear a bit of it on. I'm not sure what the aloe butters available on the market are thickened with (often vegetable oils like soy). I don't generally use that type of butter, so I'll trust the others who swear by it.My current blend of lip balm contains beeswax, babassu, palm, palm kernel, fractionated coconut oil, jojoba, castor and vitamin E. Making your own isn't terribly difficult - basically start with 1/3 wax, 1/3 brittle oils and 1/3 soft oils. thesage.com and many other sites have some wonderful references for you. Wishing you success at finding your magic blend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbuddy Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Pure aloe is only water soluble. Anyone knows how aloe butter is made to make it oil soluble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mghanem Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Are you asking how to make aloe butter oil soluble?All butters should be oil soluble by nature, normally I just have to melt it according to its melting point then blend it with the oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbuddy Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I know that aloe butter is oil soluble, but aloe is naturally only water soluble. How is aloe added to the butter and end up with oil soluble product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mychellec Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Soapbuddy, I have seen that question posed on so many boards and no one has ever had an answer. It's a mystery. There has to be an emulsifier and a preservative, or maybe aloe extract can be used in anhydrous products? I don't know so I don't use it.SoutherGal, try to see what common ingredients are in the balms that irritate your lips. For me anything labeled "medicated" or containing essential oils and extracts will cause my lips to burn and peel. You could have a beeswax sensitivity, or be sensitive to the preservatives used in commercial balms. You can make your own balm starting with equal parts (by volume) beeswax, coconut oil, and another light oil. Or check out MMS lip balm instructions; they have a nice formula (in percents/weight) incorporating hard and soft oils and butters. You can't go wrong. In the meantime, keep it simple - vaseline until your lips heal. I know, petroleum, but this will create a serious moisture barrier and protect your lips while they heal. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetosoap Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The INCI on the batch I just ordered says aloe leaf extract and coconut oil. I guess the extract must be miscible with the coconut. A fair amount of folks have trouble tolerating coconut so that would be a definite problem. I use the aloe butter in my lip balms and have never had a complaint but may be just lucky. I quit using coconut in my soaps partly for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) I'd love to find a good lip balm that I could flavor. Most commercial brands just don't work for me. I have to keep putting it on all through the day and night or my lips get real dry and crack. The best I've tried is Burt's Bees but my husband complains it tastes awful and it doesn't work as well as I'd like. I'm just not sure where to start to know what ingredients I need. I assume beeswax but after that I'm lost. How do you learn which indiv ingredients you need--is it all just trial and error? The lip balm bases I saw on Wholesale Supplies Plus (I assume that's the WSP I see referred to on the forum) seem more like for lip gloss or lipstick. I don't have any allergies or sensitivities that I'm aware of. Edited November 27, 2011 by jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramw71 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 If you don't want to make your own base, look at BCN's base. I use it and LOVE it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 What is BCN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) What is BCN?Bitter Creek NorthHere's a helpful link;http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?5492-Supplier-Abbreviations-and-Links Edited November 27, 2011 by ksranch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 thanks for the reply. I've bookmarked that link; very helpful. I know everything is here somewhere and it's aggravating for folks to see questions on info already avail but sometimes I have a hard time finding stuff. thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravo5 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I second BCN's lip balm base. Easy to use, and it holds up in warm weather. I like to keep a tube in my pocket almost all the time, and some will melt especially in the summer. And it's smooth and feels nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the replies. I just ordered BCN's lip balm base--I got their starter kit so it has flavoring and tubes in there too which I also wanted. I also ordered sample sizes of their body lotion and aloe body wash and a sample size of clean cotton fragrance. I'm excited. Something new to play with. Edited November 28, 2011 by jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramw71 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Let me know how you like the lotion base.. I'm thinking of getting some of that! I ADORE their clean cotton fragrance.... I could pour it over my head. LOL To me it smells like Gold Canyon's Clean Sheets candle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faerywren Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Essential Wholesale has some wonderful lip balm bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Let me know how you like the lotion base.. I'm thinking of getting some of that! I ADORE their clean cotton fragrance.... I could pour it over my head. LOL To me it smells like Gold Canyon's Clean Sheets candle....I like the lotion base. It's not greasy at all. To me it's similar to Aveeno Active Naturals lotion which is what I was buying. I love the Clean Cotton fragrance. I haven't tried any other lotion bases for comparison. I noticed WSP has quite a few so I may try one or two of theirs next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlancaD Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi, I just wanted to let you know you can also use aloe vera oil in your lipbalm:) or as someone else suggested just melt down the aloe butter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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