ksranch Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I had to get some mottling wax (Peak 1274) to try because I love the look (like I don't have enough to do already! lol ). I've done the searches and the reading - compared notes and got started today. Used 1 pound of wax, 1 ounce of FO and 2 TBS of steric. They look great, but I have some sweating. I found so many different opinions about the cause of this I wanted to pose the question - would more steric take care of the sweating? I obviously have a lot of testing to do - but just wanted to see if I'm headed in the right direction from someone who's done this before. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 The sweating to due to a FO added in excess of what the wax can hold (As described on the Peak's web site for 1274: higher fragrance levels yield better mottling, but levels above 5% may result in excess surface oil). While I have not done it myself, adding Vybar increases the FO carrying capacity of the was (Peak's: Vybar 103 is a wax additive used to eliminate bubbles, prevent mottling, increase opacity, and enhance fragrance-oil capacity of wax. This is the way to go to achieve higher fragrance oil capacity). It seems, however, that one cancels the other in terms of mottling. The 5% FO that 1274 holds should be good enough for a reasonable scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yep, wasn't thinking... should have started with less FO - okay, second try tomorrow! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 You can wrap them in paper towels and let sit for a day if they are pillars. You can up the amount of stearic by another T and that might help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 You can wrap them in paper towels and let sit for a day if they are pillars. You can up the amount of stearic by another T and that might help too.Thanks Scented - oddly enough, I did wrap them tonight - the sweating wasn't "awful" but it was there.. hopefully save them enough for at least a test burn on the wick. tomorrow I'll back off the FO some and up the stearic a bit .. we'll see! ;0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Mottles characteristically sweat at first, but if you let them sit, what seeps out will usually seep back in. There stearic cuts down on the seeping. Vybar will alter your mottle depending on how much is used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Yes you can wrap them in paper towels & let the air dry for a few days but.........they may sweat while burning and when you hug a sweating candles you hands get really messy. I always stay at 5% or below with 1274 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Yes you can wrap them in paper towels & let the air dry for a few days but.........they may sweat while burning and when you hug a sweating candles you hands get really messy. I always stay at 5% or below with 1274Yep, found out not to hug them today when test burning!! lol My normal wick for that size seems to be struggling a bit too.. may have to wick up with this wax... love to learn!! Will try again Tuesday or so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Okay, I don't need to wick up - second and third burn everything went fine - didn't even have to hug. However, I'm not happy with the HT at all. DH came in and said he couldn't smell it either.. So, although I love the look I'm not convinced I'm going to add this to my line.... will try another FO today and adjust the Sterin.. maybe too much FO sweated out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radellaf Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I used to have that problem and tried a bunch of additives (stearic, vybar, x crystals, polyboost) and what worked best for me was a little micro wax. Half a percent or so. The 190MP micro that I think is easier to get suppresses mottling more than lower MP micro, but still can work. A little stearic (1% by weight) usually brought back the mottling, and/or a little less micro. It all depended on the amount and type of FO, but 0.5% 170mp micro, 1% stearic, in 1274 or 1343 was the best formula I had. No sweating, generally no bulging, nice mottling look that could be adjusted by both FO load and tweaking the additives.Now I'm wondering if I should keep going that route or switch to 4045H, since CandleScience discontinued the 1274, 1343 isn't as consistently mottling, and 4045H has a slightly higher MP so would be less prone to bulge. It is more expensive, being 50lb to the case vs 60, and there's the ~$20 extra for shipping.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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