bramoncada Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Ok.... so i want to start making votive candles using 464 and CO. I have some questions about wicking ( i purchase from candlescience) so anything they have will work. But are there any TIPS i need to know?? what wicks do i use? ETC.. THANKS GUYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I would use ecosoya PB. Not container 464, I just started with soy votives too. I use cd wicks, CS doesn't carry them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkthailand Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 We use the ECO PB as well and an ECO wick... Works good so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) If you are pouring your votives directly into the container in which they will be burned, then the 464 should do quite well. I use C3 in the little 2 oz. Italian glass votives that I sell and it works very well.However, if you are making loose votives (in votive molds), then PB is a better solution. 464 is too soft for this application, even with added CO.As for what wicks to use, you will have to test to find out what works best for you with the wax, additives, FOs, etc. that you use. I use CD 6-7 for PB votives, if that helps.The rule of thumb is use a votive or pillar wax for molded candles. For container candles, use a container blend for best results. HTH Edited November 6, 2010 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramoncada Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yes. I was planning on pouring the 464 directly into the votives. Why would the say the 464 isnt as good as the pb tho??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 because when most of us hear votive we think of a votive mold, like these: http://www.peakcandle.com/products/Votive-Mold--Standard-15-Hour__M1020.aspxand 464 is too soft for that kind of use. PS is a pillar blend, its harder- stiffer. Its still soy wax, but its meant for use in a mold, it works best for tarts too. 464 wont release from a mold the way PB will, PB slightly shrinks so it "pulls" away from the walls of the mold and pops right out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramoncada Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 yea i was actually going to keep the wax in a glass votive. So would that be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 See post#4 above. The gist of the replies say that when pouring directly into a small votive container, use container blend wax. When making loose, molded votives, use a pillar blend. The reasons behind choosing a pillar formula or container formula wax are outlined in post #6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAgirl89 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I use GB464 for my containers, votives or jars. If I'm making free standing votives and tarts, I use the Ecosoya Pillar Blend. I've had very good results with both of these waxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramoncada Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 how do you think Ecosoya CB 135 would do in the votive.. i am not using a mold im pouring directly.. i also had a question about pretabed wicks and the little stickes.. does that look odd when used in votives.. sorry for the questions! THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyTru Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I use 415 and beeswax for my votives. 1 lb 415 and 2 Tbls beeswax. Have done that for years. I would think it would work in 464...maybe have to adjust the beeswax a little.Could add vegetable stearic acid too.Trudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramoncada Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 OK! so my shipment of tumbler glasses and Votives have arrived.. Im going to use a ecosoya 135 and a 464 blend for the votives. I was wondering i know people wash there tumblers and votives and then heat them in the oven for a bit.. However im pouring directly into the glass and was planning on doing so at 145 degrees.. If anybody has any input on past experience with what i just said please let me know! thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramoncada Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 Ok so is there any tips for pouring directly into tumblers before i begin? so far heating glass ( to eliminate wetspots) washing them out (common sense) im going to be testing with wicking and was wondering if theres anything else i should keep it mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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