smart Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Here is my first time at Palm. I am pretty happy with them I would have liked the colours alittle brighter anyways we are on to testing these now let you know how it goes. Not perfect still need to work on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Good for you!! I hope you enjoy them and that your wicking & throw is perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Very nice colors, are those layers?It seems they are upside down are they?Congrats on your firsts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I thought the same thing. When you take your pillar out of the mold the bottom becomes the top. Also looks like you could have done a small repour to level the candle while it was still in the mold.Other than that they are rather nice looking. Good luck with your testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Your pink color is just gorgeous. But I too think you've wicked them upside down. When pouring in a mold, the top of the candle will be the bottom in the mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnitaG Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Great colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 yes you are so right I have a lot more learning to do. Here is another pic I think that I am really enjoying the palm it is like opening a present not knowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Looks like you may be using "found" molds, which is why sometimes one wicks candles upside down from the way one would do it if using a seamless metal candle mold. I made a lot of those when I first started pouring palm! I have an oval kleenex box similar to your candle on the left that I've been waiting to pour! it is like opening a present not knowingI agree 100%!! It's fun and exciting! :yay: Edited February 21, 2010 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 yes you are so right I have a lot more learning to do. Here is another pic I think that I am really enjoying the palm it is like opening a present not knowing.I love the colors of these ones too. Nice job. I think the mold thing can be confusing. I have several layered candles I've poured where I screwed up because I don't have the colored layers in the order I wanted them because I forgot the bottom of the mold was the top of the candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) ya I do have them all mixed up. Stella I am using a metal mold with a hole on the bottom and I have that tack stuff what I did was so wrong I was using the wicks with the tab already on them and putting them in (lazy) and of course new to the pillar so that would be why they are upside down lol are you using by the yard wick and them cutting them I am so comfused well here is the candle burning is this the way that it should burn with a shell or did I do something wrong again I heard that it burns all the wax Am I wrong?And thank you for all the nice comments and all the guidance as I really need all the help lol Edited February 21, 2010 by smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Okay that did not last long Look what happened What went wrong? do I need to downsize my wick?Also do I still use the same amount of fo in palm?where is RichardOz and Desertrose when needed lol Edited February 21, 2010 by smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) You have experienced a blowout. Your wick was too large, the melt pool drained and made a mess. Aren't you GLAD you had it in a bowl?!!! You will need to wick down at least one size, maybe two. Your wick looked way too long in the first set of photos. Trim to no more than 1/4" for palm pillars.I use the same amount of FO in my palm pillars as I do in soy or containers: 1 oz./pp. HTH Edited February 21, 2010 by Stella1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 is that what happened I thought that a blowout was through the bottom okay thank you so much. I will wick down and use a bowl again let know how it goes. thank so much.:smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I thought that a blowout was through the bottomNope. From the photo on the right, your candle blew out at about 5 o'clock (where it burned through the outer shell and leaked the melt pool).Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes you are right that is what happened. Now should the shell stay or should it burn all the wax you are so helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo T. Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I love the colours and shades you have chosen for your candles. The help given here is excellent and you will find the support so uplifting. Enjoy the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Jo you are so right I dont think that you can find better information in any book or video then from right her on this forum. I am now burning my mint colour pillar amd so far so good it has been burning for 2 hrs and no blow out yet. thanks for your comments they mean alot .Smart:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 should the shell stay or should it burn all the waxThat depends on what you want... I wick mine to leave a nice shell that people can re-illuminate with an electric tea light (real ones are too hot) to continue their enjoyment after the candle is burned out. Other folks wick theirs to self-consume. This is pretty difficult with palm, but not at all impossible... HTH it has been burning for 2 hrs and no blow out yetHope it burns perfectly for ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLOZ Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hey SmartNice attempt for your first pillars. They do take some getting used to, especially the wicking part.As Stella suggested some people wick to leave a shell and some wick to self consume. Tracy and I have generally been in the second category, so our pillars if burned correctly will begin to leave a shell and then as the pillar burns, the shell will get thinner and thinner and follow the candle down to the end.I have been playing with wicking to leave a shell also, just have not decided which I like best yet. For me it really depends on the colour of the initial candle, for example a nice dark cobalt blue will glow a purple kind of colour when burning which the light shinging through, so that would look great leaving a shell.Our hippy pillars we would most likely wick to self consume.Keep puching on with it. It does get frustrating I know, and just when you think you have it....LOL, something else comes along, but such is the craft of candle making. Probably why I no longer have any hair, what with wicking and 4 kids.....LOL.Good luck and keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smart Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Thanks Richard I have burned another and so far we are safe I like the HT it seems good. I like you not sure on the shell but I do like the way this one is burning I still have lots of testing to do these are not that easy but alot of fun. How many hours till I get as talented as yourself and Tracy lol:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzbeak Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Any good links for how to make a palm candle like that? I have no idea how those striations in the candle are even possible.In fact, I suspect alien technology...Fuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbuddy Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Those look pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie73 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi, Smart! You will love working with palm wax. The pillars are like opening a Christmas present, each one can look different when it comes out of the mold.Stella, Richard and Desert Rose are all very experienced with palm wax. They will be a great help to you. What I have learned with the palm is how different it burns (thanks Stella!) from other waxes. I made one that I thought was seriously tunneling, but Stella taught me patience. You have got to burn it all the way down. Clearly, if you have a blow-out, you will need to wick down, but in my case the wick I was using turned out to be the right wick size even tho it appeared to be tunneling.I like to burn mine where whatever candle I have left, I can break it into little pieces and use it in my tart burner. This way you get to use every bit of the candle. Good luck to you!Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Any good links for how to make a palm candle like that? I have no idea how those striations in the candle are even possible.If you search the Veggie wax forum, you will find lots of information on making palm wax candles - both pillars and containers. I am not sure what you mean by "striations" Are you referring to the crystal appearance of the wax or the color layers? Whichever it is, palm wax can achieve many interesting forms and designs because it crystallizes, depending on the temp at which it's poured and the formula of the wax (feathering, granite, starburst, tortoise shell, etc.).The pillars are like opening a Christmas present, each one can look different when it comes out of the mold.You hit the nail on the head, Debbie! I NEVER get tired of looking at palm wax candles. Each one is unique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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