Starr Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Okay, got the crock pot going just a few feet away, I'm working on Apples n' Oak and I wanted to make it a nice rich green. So I dyed it GREEN. It is now... RED!HUH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 what did you use for a colorant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 C&S's FD&C liquid dye in green. I know I didn't grab the wrong bottle as I have a spot of green that got on my hand while I was opening the bottle but what I got was ruby freaking red! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Maybe it will change back to green. Some dyes are funny that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 I don't know. It's completely cooled now and it's holding that bright red tone. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 well since a non-bloody bright red is almost the holy grail of soaping - let us know if it sticks!(by non-bloody I mean you don't look like your razor went nutso on you when using it in the shower) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) I'll be sure to post an update on it in a day or two. I will say that I jumped the gun on the smallest bar of the first batch (that is now red) and used it after it had cooled and set a bit and it did not bleed. Will see if that remains after it finishes curing. Another update however...I just finished another batch of the same soap. Tried the green again, it turned red... again. Luckly, I had only added a small amount, I grabbed my TKB pop green and got quickly to work. It is now a GORGEOUS shade of green. I'm thinking it's something in the dye that just doesn't react properly with HP soap. Edited October 23, 2009 by Starr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitn Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 If it stays true red , that will be incredible , the unobtainable color pretty much .I can't wait to hear if it stays red . I know you wanted green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Some dyes do not react well to oil-based applications / processed soaps. It will make the colors morph. Maybe check the supplier's info on the dye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Okay, my bright red has changed a bit to a kind of brick reddish/brown color. Sorry everyone, I have not achieved a permanent bright red. Gee... I wonder what would happen if I used the red dye I have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitn Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Darn it , I though you were onto something wonderful there , sorry it didn't morph back to green for you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 On the plus side, it was a super small batch so I'm not really "out" a whole lot. I do need to find a way to clean up the second batch though, potato peeler maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquiO Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Did you add your color before or after the cook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 First batch got it before the cook, it started greenish but turned red pretty quick. Second batch, did it after the cook, went straight to red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 FD&C dyes have all different chemical properties, so not all of them are suitable for all applications.You said you got these from C&S and I think the problem is that they don't do any soaping over there. They sell those dyes for use in MP and B&B applications. Some of them evidently are reactive when used in CP/HP and the color morphs.To avoid weirdness, you should probably get your FD&C dyes from a supplier that specializes in soapmaking. There should be plenty of good options, but I personally use the Select Shades dyes from Tradewinds and get excellent results with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 You're probably right. Doing HP is still a fairly new thing and I just used what I had on hand. Admittedly, it didn't dawn on me that C&S does deal only in a small way with soaping and only MP at that. I also did NOT anticipate green going to red but at least now I know. I was more concerned with "Did I do something wrong?" "Is my lye somehow still active and it did something?" etc... types of things. Thanks for the advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaD Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 How bizarre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquiO Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've used Mccormick's green food color in HP after the cook and it comes out a bright green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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