I love candles Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I am making a large batch of candles to fill orders and to take to a large show this weekend. I just got 4 new boxes of C3 yesterday and loaded one of them into my melter. When I poured it into the pitcher, it looks like it has soap in it. I poured that out and got a different pitcher, figuring that I must not have rinsed the pitcher enough. But it did it again!!! Has anyone seen this before or is this a bad batch? I am going to pull my hair out and just cry if it is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 I forgot to add that this is the first wax I have bought since July. I also think it is the first time Ihave noticed the new company name on the label. I thought I remember seeing something on here about a small formulation change but I just can't find it in my frantic state Thanks for any help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Are you saying it was foamy, or what? Did you actually pour any candles with it? What temperature was it when melted and what temp was it in the pitcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 I did pour a few candles with it and let them set up. I test burned one and it looks and burned the same as always. I guess you could call it foamy - the bubbles seemed to go away after adding the fragrance and dye. The wax was at 165-170 when it came out and I added the fragrance and dye right then - nothing different than I always do. If the test burn was ok, do you think that means there is nothing wrong with the wax? Tonight is going to be a long night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 nothing different than I always doWhen you add FO at 165°F, (especially in cooler weather) this will drop the temp at least 15° in the pouring pot. I had noticed this when I started pouring in a small room with an a/c blasting. Try heating the wax to a higher temp - around 180°F - then adding prewarmed FO/dye and pouring into warmed containers and covering. I add FO & dye to the pour pot and set on an electric skillet to prewarm both the FO/dye and the pour pot itself. That way, there is no thermal shock that can start the wrong crystal phase formation.As you noted, the burn will not be affected - only the appearance of the candle. If left in this state, the candle will have a lot more frosting.I noticed that the last batch of NatureWax C3 I bought last summer (still the same old label but after the company change) seemed to behave a little differently than before. I usually premelt the wax to 180°, let it reharden overnight, then remelt and pour the next day at about the same temps as you described. After the premelt, instead of hardening with a smooth, satiny top, the wax in the Presto was spongey when it cooled - not at all like the C3 to which I was accustomed!! The wax had obviously lost its tempering. I realized that something had changed and that it was not crystallizing in the same way at the same temps, so I paid more attention to monitoring the temperature (including the pour pot), made sure everything was warm and poured at a higher temperature (155-165°F). I also paid more attention to stirring constantly while the temp was coming down during the tempering phase and after adding FO & dye. The only time I stop stirring is when I am actually pouring (and I stir between pouring each container). HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love candles Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Stella, you are amazing! Thank you so much for your help - I didn't even think about the FO and dye changing the temp in the pot but it makes sense. I am also in a different house than I was last fall/winter so maybe the way the place heats is different enough to make a difference. I am definitely going to try this tonight and hopefully get a lot poured AND get to bed at a decent time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alajane Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wow, Stella--this is interesting info! I melt my wax in a Presto, put it into my pour pot, then add FO and dye and place it over heat while I stir for several minutes. But your statement about thermal shock and crystal formation makes sense--tonight I'm going to try doing it your way and see if it makes a difference.Thanks for the suggestion.Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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