Debk Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I need more emulsifying wax and the receipe calls for 5 oz. I only have 2.5 oz. left. What can I substitue the other 2.5 oz. with? soy wax maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Could you cut the recipe in half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 yes, thought of that but I need several 2 oz. butters by next wed. or thurs. at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Well, I guess that won't work, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 maybe i will make half the receipe and that will get me by and order more. maybe it will be here before next wed. thanks for you help :highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauna1 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Do you have any BTMS? I have heard of people subbing that for E-Wax.Chauna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 what is BTMS? sry lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 BTMS is a conditioning emulsifier. I was just thinking if you didn't know what it was you don't have any of that.... . But my suggestion would be wait a little while to see if anyone else can suggest a wax you could use, I can't help you there, and order more. In fact I think ordering more would be better. You already know what to expect with ewax but not with someone's suggested wax as a substitute. Even if it does work you may not like the finished result. Better safe than sorry and you won't have any wasted oils $$$$! That of course is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jurnalynn Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 do you have steric acid or cetyl alcohol? u can use thoseLaura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 I have both, which one would be best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 so if i am using the steric or cetyl, do i go ahead and add the other 2.5 of one of these to the 2.5 oz. of emulsifying wax or would I add less? sry for all the questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jurnalynn Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 replace the 2.5 with one or both of these you can use a combo of the 2Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 thank you laura!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jurnalynn Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 your welcom....let me know how it turned out the feel of the waxes will be slightly differentLaura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 thank you from me too! I always wondered why recipes called for both steric and e-wax and your response helped alot Laura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jurnalynn Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 i wouldn't replace all the ewax this way but when in a pinch you can improviseLaura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstkeller Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sorry for question (i'm not feeling very bright after reading these posts 3 times and still not getting it). . is she saying that you could do the 2.5 ewax and the other 2.5 as stearic (or 2.5 cetyl)?I have run out of ewax and only have stearic (no cetyl). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuanyelss Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 In fact I think ordering more would be better. You already know what to expect with ewax but not with someone's suggested wax as a substitute.cartier engagement rings,cheap cartier trinity ring diamondscartier jewelry,cheap diamond cartier trinity ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mychellec Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Stearic acid and cetyl alcohol are thickeners, not emulsifiers. They act as "co-emulsifiers" only in the sense that they add viscosity to a product, but cannot make a hydrophobic substance hydrophilic (meaning they can't emulsify water and oils on their own). I usually use e-wax as 25% of my oils phase, and cetyl (or stearic) as half of my e-wax amount, depending on desired thickness. With stearic/cetyl and high-shear mixing you can create a false (or temporary) emulsion, but it is unstable and will separate in a short time. Best advice? Order more e-wax! HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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