RNSandSCENTS Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 My 2nd round of testers for traditional sugar scrub came back again with positive results but since they were only 1 oz containers I did not put any preservatives in them. Now that I have preservatives I wanted to make them larger. My recipes is as follows:60% Sugar38% Oil1% Fragrance1% PhenonipThe directions that I have do not tell me to heat the oils...could this be why the preservative is drowning my fragrance? I can smell it but I smell the preservative more. The directions I have say to mix the fo and oils for 2 minutes then add the sugar mix 2 more minutes then add your preservative and mix another minutes. Can someone please tell me what I did wrong? My butters and my lotions all smell fine but I am stumped here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ok maybe I am crazy or tired but I went back and smelled them. They have been sitting out for about an hour or so. Now I don't smell the preservative in the ones I did first. The ones I did last, the preservative smell is not as noticeable:confused: Maybe this insomnia is getting the best of me....but scrubs smell lovely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 What preservative are you using, and do you use a gram scale to weight it? I've never had an issue.What is the scent? Not all of them will knock you over, regardless of the supplier. Perhaps you are desensitized from working with fragrance at the moment. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I've never had an issue with smelly preservative in my scrubs. However, I put the preservative and the FO in the oils and melted butters and mix mix mix, only adding the sugar at the very end, and usually after letting the oils/butters/FO/preservative mixure set up over night. Sugar seems to incorporate better that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 I don't know but they sure do smell great today....phew! I don't smell the preservative at all now....I used Phenonip. And the fo was Vanilla Bean Noel frm SOS in extreme conc. Thanks for the replies:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquiO Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I use the Germabin Plus but I have no problems with smell. I've read with some perservatives that you have to add it when your emulsion is cool. When I make my scrubs I heat the oils and butters then whip in the sugar. After everything has been whipped several times and has cooled down I add perservative - whip some more then add in color and fragrance. If the perservative is overpowering the fragrance you may try upping the FO to 2%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-soy Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I find that with sugar scrubs, you need to allow time for the fragrance to permeate the scrub...let it sit a bit and and viola! Don't up the fo until you've let it cure some or you may end up with an overpowering scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Correction: I bought my Vanilla Bean Noel from Peak not SOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I've never had an issue with smelly preservative in my scrubs. However, I put the preservative and the FO in the oils and melted butters and mix mix mix, only adding the sugar at the very end, and usually after letting the oils/butters/FO/preservative mixure set up over night. Sugar seems to incorporate better that way.I do the exact same thing, except I add the preservative when I do the sugar. It works wonderfully. I often read about people putting lotion filled bottles in the micro to mix the scent in, after it is heated. This totally kills the preservative system, in most cases. Makes me cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I often read about people putting lotion filled bottles in the micro to mix the scent in, after it is heated. This totally kills the preservative system, in most cases. Makes me cringe.Would this be the case in bases as well? WSP's basic lotion base states: Measure base and place in Pyrex cup. Heat in microwave on very low, intermittent heat. Once liquid, add 1% cosmetic fragrance oil or 1/3% essential oil. Add cosmetic color as desired. Mix well. Pour into bottles. Allow to cool to room temperature before applying top. Label. ETA: I don't heat til liquid myself, found it didn't need it, so I warm slightly to make it just a bit more runny.Ingredients are:Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Proysorbate-60, Stearyl Alcohol, Sunflower Oil, Allantoin, Propylene Glycol, Isopropyl Palmitate, Petrolatum, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, BHT, Disodium EDTA, Carbomer, Benzophenone-4, Stearic Acid. But their luxury base does NOT say to heat. Would those two preservatives be okay in their base, or is it ill advised anyways? TIA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNSandSCENTS Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 I have to correct my post from earlier. The Vanilla Bean Noel came from WSP. Now my old fashioned sugar scrubs are fine BUT my body butter is a problem. Now I have made batches of butters with Vera Wang and Tropical Punch from SOS no problem...testers came back with rave reviews, especially the Tropical Punch BUT this darned VBN *&^%#^*! It keeps seperating. The batch is fine until I add this particular fo and ZAP....I've got snot!!! Now I will admit, I did not put any vanilla stabilizer in it because its only a test batch but would not having it cause the seperation? My understanding of vanilla stabilizer was just to help with the color. Or, is it just this fo? It is a DEAD ON DUPE and I'd hate to not be able to use it but my butter looks more like snot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Just remember that when you add your preservative, will depend on the preservative you are using and the temps recommended that it be added at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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