leisa2003 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 What is the difference in these? Or opinion on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 What is the difference in these? Or opinion on these?The difference is night and day....I like the 464 WAY better than the 415. To me, the 464 is just way easier to work with. The MP of the 464 is lower and you can pour it hot and the 464 is EASY to wick....do a search on both the 464 and the 415 and you will see those who love and/or hate either or both waxes.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I prefer the 415 and add CO. I never experience cracks which I did with 464. 415 is hard to work with but is a lovely wax and burns well, although it is a bit tempermental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaxFlower Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 415 is pure soy...no additives...and is a bit tricky to wick. 464 is basically 402 with a soy-based additive which enables the wax to be poured at a hotter temperature, reduces frosting and increases FO load. The one thing I don't like about 464 is the residue that it leaves behind in the candle jar after burning, otherwise it is a bit easier to wick than the 415.This might help you...http://www.gfgb.com/candles/candle_products.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Has anyone compared the scent throws between the two? For the life of me, I love 415...trying to work the 464 but can't seem to get a throw on these buggers.With 415 I find it easy to wick with LX wicks. But the LX wicks don't work at all with the 464. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-GRAN-ONES Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 i have tried several of the GB waxes..my favorite is the 415..i seemed to have the best luck withhot and cold throw..the tops can be a little rough sometimes, buti just wait until they are totaly cooled and hit them with the heat gun if needed.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 yeah, see...I'm with you on the 415 too. I must say though that I get very few if any wet spots from the 464 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmarcha Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 415 gets my vote. I have been using it for years, and have had no real issues. Once I learned its temperment, and how to work with it, it is actually easier to work with than the rest of the natural waxes I have tested...believe me, it has been many. HTHGEEZ! Need to change my saying at the bottom of my posts...ya think!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 415 is my favourite. You can get rough tops but these can easily be heat gunned. most of the time there are no wet spots. Given the choice, it is a winner for me. HT and Ct are brilliant and it holds EO really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekrunner Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hi leisa! May I call you leisa? I have been away from the board for a while, but back when I was first experimenting in my Mad Scientist Lab I did alot of testing with 415, 402, 444 (both old and new) and 464. The 415 and 402 are straight soys, but the 402 has a much lower melt point. The USA that is added to 402 makes the 464, and for some it works better, but I had issues with the fact that it was too soft even after it set up. I guess it was because I ahd learned to use soy with 415 and Beeswax and the candle was very hard. It mostly depends on what you start using first, that kinda shews your view of othre waxes. Each wax has it's peculiarities, and one adjusts to those peculiarities. I've been doing soy for almost four years, and only changed my formula once, when I switched fom 415/BW to a blend of 415/402/USA and pour hot. As long as I preheat my jars and take them to a warm room (>72 deg) to cool, I have no frosting problems. I do have to poke and heat gun, but I'm used to that routine.Good luck! geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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