Kelly Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Does anyone know why my M&P white soaps (no additional additives) are turning yellow after a couple days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comfortscents Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 how are you melting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 microwave - low power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticalsoaps Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 What FO scent did you use? You would be amazed at how many fo scents will discolor mp soap. Ask me how i know- Its happened to me many times!!! I'm waiting for the most beautiful chocolate mint soap to discolor. I learn to take picas asap before the discoloration occurs.....LOLit could be your choice of fo.strawberry discolors, chocolate does, coconut, etc......annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 it was blackberry sage... olive blossom did the same thing too actually turned it even more yellow. Maybe I'll have to start dying my soaps but I kind of do the more natural thing so I didn't want to but this yellow color isn't very pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperi Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 are you putting these in the sun somehow? I read somewhere that some people add a uv inhibitor to stop the discoloring? Not sure if that pertains to your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapmom25 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 definitely FOColored oils are logical that they'll affect the whiteness/brightness, but don't assume that a clear oil WON'T affect it, because they certainly can & will!years ago I made samples for myself with a small mold of every FO that I stocked at the time in a plain, white soap and made notes of their color after 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, and 1 month. Try it and you'll be shocked at how many will change and how few stay white! Some of the "changed" colors aren't appealing, so you have to be careful how you color them too.If you want to stay natural, you still can .... use cocoa, paprika, dry mustard (doesn't smell), etc. for your colorants instead of supplier bought dyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 Is there a way to keep them white naturally? Un-naturally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapmom25 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Is there a way to keep them white naturally? Un-naturally?opinions vary on this, so it basically comes down to trial and error with you own materials. I have tried "vanilla stabilizer" and have gotten mixed results. In an oil with low vanilla content, it will help. It won't help with a heavy bakery scent. You can add TD (titanium dioxide) to re-whiten, but again everything is "to a degree" and nothing ever completely overcomes color changes in my trials and experience. WSP is wonderful about listing the % of vanilla content on their oils ~ that will give you a great starting point at guessing what will "change" if you're ordering a new oil that you've never tried before.If you have a niche (special shape, certain design, distinctive packaging) your customers probably won't even care what color the soap is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I hear ya- I made these wonderful soaps with little embedded sayings in a pretty pink color, and the FO I used was Sweet Pea-it's a yellow FO, and within a couple of days, all my cute little soapies started fading out/yellowing from the outside in. GrrrrrI posted them on another board, and everyone said to go ahead and try to sell them, cuz other peeps might not even notice-we shall see. I truly believe that it IS the FO, I've had problems with lemon, bubble gum, vanilla (obviously) etc. etc. Some FO's/soaps get wonky and some don't, it's all trial and error with this.It just bites when you've worked hard on them and then they turn on you huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 How much titanium dioxide should I add? Or maybe I am worrying too much... I mean it doesn't look that bad. It's just I see so many white bars people are selling online that I just felt I must be doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Ann Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 If you want to stay natural, you still can .... use cocoa, paprika, dry mustard (doesn't smell), etc. for your colorants instead of supplier bought dyes is there a list of spices that can be used safely for color? and also say if this can cause irritation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradelrae Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Doesnt stephenson now offer a non coloring m&p soap. I thought i read that on Newdirections last time I was there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Ann Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 did stephenson's stop using sles in their soaps? when checking ingredients i thought I saw that ingredient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnaete Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I use a lot of herbs in my soap for color. Ones that come to mind: alkanet root powder for a purple shade, ground sage for a green shade, fennel seed powder for yellow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Ann Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I use a lot of herbs in my soap for color. Ones that come to mind: alkanet root powder for a purple shade, ground sage for a green shade, fennel seed powder for yellow...gee we need to compose a list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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