Need some help with ingredients

[Christina]

I have a client who wants me to r"eplicate" this shampoo. She's African and isn't able to get this particular product very easily anymore. I don't recognize a lot of these ingredients. I've tried researching them. Looks like most of them are just for foaming properties...at least the ones with "coca" in the name. Some of the ingredients I coulnd't find explanations for at all, I just found sites with them listed as ingredients. If anyone could help me out with anything they might recognize, and possibly know a more natural subsitute for...I'd be really greatefull....

ingredients: water, sodium laureth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium cocoamphoacetate, glycol distearate, cocamide MEA, laureth-7 or laureth-9, hydrolized wheat protein, hydrolized wheat starch, chamomile [antheis nobilis] extract, slippery elm bark [ulmus fulva], black walnut [julgans nigra]extract, aloe barbadenis gel, panthenol, polymethoxy bicyclc oxazolidine, citric acid, polyquaternium-10, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sodium chloride, tocopheryl acetate, triethanolamine, disodium EDTA

Christina

[Christina]

Ok, I[m going to approach this at a different angle. The Shampoo is Dark and Lovely 3 in 1 something or other. I've never used it myself (as I'm quite fair...although, I'm definitly tempted after reading it's reviews, hehe). What I saw was that it moisturizes really well, has lots of lather, and detangles like crazy. Could someone help me pick out the ingredients that contribute to those things so perhaps I could formulate my own recipe?

Christina

[EmpressC]

Try this site: http://www.gina.antczak.btinternet.co.uk/CU/ING.HTM

It gives a brief description of cosmetic ingredients. Might be a good starting point. Good luck.

[Jadryga]

ingredients: water, sodium laureth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium cocoamphoacetate, glycol distearate, cocamide MEA, laureth-7 or laureth-9, hydrolized wheat protein, hydrolized wheat starch, chamomile [antheis nobilis] extract, slippery elm bark [ulmus fulva], black walnut [julgans nigra]extract, aloe barbadenis gel, panthenol, polymethoxy bicyclc oxazolidine, citric acid, polyquaternium-10, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sodium chloride, tocopheryl acetate, triethanolamine, disodium EDTA

Christina

Not sure if you want the whole list or what...

Surfactants and foaming agents are a nice green color, additives are a happy orange, conditioning agents are a cool blue color, pH adjusters are a fuzzy pink color, things that influence product appearance and other useful ingredients are a funky purple color.

Sodium Laureth Sulfate

- Surfactant, nothing new there

Cocamidopropyl Betaine

- milder surfactant, anti-static properties, humectant

Sodium Cocoamphoacetate

- mild amphoteric surfactant

Glycol Distearate

- makes shampoos opaque and pearlescent

Cocamide MEA

- foaming agent and stabilizer, viscosity booster

hydrolyzed wheat protein

- nothing new here

hydrolyzed wheat starch

- nothing new here either

chamomile extract

- the usual suspect, lightens hair slightly, soothing, anti-inflammatory, smells nice

slippery elm bark

- gives a slippery feel, soothing, anti-inflammatory

black walnut extract

- darkens hair, anti-inflammatory, good for some skin conditions, in this case, probably the scalp

aloe barbadensis gel

- simply put, aloe vera gel.

panthenol

- humectant, conditioner

polymethoxy bicyclc oxazolidine

- preservative

citric acid

- acidifier, important to keep pH slightly acidic for smooth cuticles

polyquarternium-10

- aka quarternized cellulose, anti-static agent, softener, conditioner

guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride

- aka quarternized guar, provides smoothness and volume, conditioner

sodium chloride

- plain old table salt, product thickener

tocopherol acetate

- Vitamin E acetate, I can't tell if it's natural or synthetic simply from this

triethanolamine

- pH adjuster and emulsifying surfactant

disodium EDTA

- water softener, sequestering agent

Super helpful links:

http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/shampoo.html

http://www.happi.com/articles/2007/02/economy-premium-shampoos.php

(Yeah, I'm a research nut :undecided )

[Christina]

Thanks!!! Both of you have given exactly what I was looking for...what a ton of info!

Of course, after reading all this stuff, I feel quite out of my depth. I"m gonna have to ask for another YEAR to research this stuff before I even try!

Christina (off I go to read)

[sarahlf]

Try browsing at:

http://www.theherbarie.com

Angie has many surfactants that you can sub and has a great formulary for you to use to see if you can come up with a similar recipe.

HTH,

Sarah.