ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading some where on here that PKO can be just as drying as coconut oil. Am I right on this? I have a recipe that calls for lard which I don't have any so I'm wanting to sub something for that. These are the oils it calls for:OOCoconutCastorLardWhich would best palm or pko or I have these oils:JojobaAvocadoWheat GermSoybeanMacadamia NutSweet AlmondI would really like to stay away from the nut oils because I'm so afraid of allergies with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Sudz Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 You want to Use Palm Not PKO as a base...in place of lard..HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Yup, sub palm for the lard. Be sure to re-calculate your recipe, though; the lye amount could well change when you make the substitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Thanks and yup I recalculated it. I've learned from everyone on here always put a recipe in the soap calc lol I don't wanna get yelled at lmao Just kidding ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Okay I have one more question. Suppose I want to sub PKO for the coconut. Would I plug in beef tallow for the PKO like I would the coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 um? why would you be using the beef tallow numbers for coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryann Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 WOW that's a brain twister! I read that a few x's and am not sure of your ?Palm and Lard are conditioning- Palm is plant based and lard is animal based.PKO and CO are for cleansing and can be drying in high amounts. With this said can you answer your own question.OK let me see ...... lard is conditioning and can't be substituted for CO which is for cleansing- am I close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 I read it on another post where Eugenia said doing this would make the soap not so drying plugging it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazeforsoap Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Some soapers use a lower sap value for coconut oil and find that it is less irritating to their skin. You shouldn't have to do that with pko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryann Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Maybe she'll see this thread and help. Or you could pm her, she's very helpful. Could you give a link to that thread?:smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Some soapers use a lower sap value for coconut oil and find that it is less irritating to their skin. You shouldn't have to do that with pko.Thank you that's what I was wanting to know.Here's the link to the thread:http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryann Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Here is a GREAT thread from the archives that Bunny did: http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3164 Here is an excerpt from that thread: " You know you want a cleansing bar, and the cleansing oils just happen to be hard oils. More than 15% coconut may dry your skin and be itchy, and more than 20% palm kernel oil may do the same."I would read the whole thread its SUCH a help!:smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysj Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Thank you Mary Ann I will read over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading some where on here that PKO can be just as drying as coconut oil. Am I right on this? I have a recipe that calls for lard which I don't have any so I'm wanting to sub something for that. These are the oils it calls for:OOCoconutCastorLardWhich would best palm or pko or I have these oils:JojobaAvocadoWheat GermSoybeanMacadamia NutSweet AlmondI would really like to stay away from the nut oils because I'm so afraid of allergies with it.Next time you are at the grocery store, pick up a tub of lard and try a recipe with it in it. Lard in soap is so nice. And its one of those things you can buy locally and save on shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Just use the usual pko value when entering your pko recipe on soapcalc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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