tonyalc Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Does anyone offer their FO's for re-sale to your customers? What kind of pricing, etc. do you recommend? Any and all help will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammafransfixins Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I do my fragrance oils in little glass bottles with sprayers. I call them refresher oils..but they are pure oil. 1oz bottles. I have mine priced at 4.99 per 1 oz bottle. I have had folks order a case of them...and then my price is a bit cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyalc Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Hey, that's a great idea you have there, thanks for posting. I doubt if I offer the option of reselling, but sometimes I do get asked. I'd rather resell to the person than flat out tell them where I get my supplies, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gloworm Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 OK what is a refresher oil used for? Just like air freshner? What exactly are your customers going to use an ounce of oil for if they don't already do soap or candles?? Maybe this is a dumb question.:undecided Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuepie Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 OK what is a refresher oil used for? Just like air freshner? What exactly are your customers going to use and ounce of oil for if they don't already do soap or candles?? Maybe this is a dumb question.:undecided GloI'd kinda like to know too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Re-packaged FO in small bottles can be used in/for...Re-scenting used wax melts in oil burners that have lost their scent.To freshen old potpourriTo re-scent the paper car freshners or the corn cob freshners.Electric or tealight oil burnersLight bulb ringsTo re-scent Smelly Jelliesto re-scent dipped crittersYou can use the oil to scent Pine cones to use a potpourriYou can add a few drops on a cotton ball and place in the bottom of the trash can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyalc Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 I think maybe she means refresher oils for potpourri-that's what I thought of when I read refresher oils. And actually, they'd be perfect for spraying and livening up potpourri around the house-kind of like recycling the old instead of buying new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyalc Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 LOL, CM is right ON! I agree with everything he just posted. I will have to say, though, that this lady requesting an oil was specifically wanting it for her direct product line... whether it was soaps or candles, B&B,..I didn't ask but she stated that she has a small business.Here's what I came up with and offered her: 1oz. = ($2.99) 2oz. = ($4.99) 4oz. = ($8.50) 8oz. = ($13.50) 16 oz. = ($22.95) I'm not out to make a killing this way...just worth my time and supplies, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 LOL, CM is right ON! I agree with everything he just posted. I will have to say, though, that this lady requesting an oil was specifically wanting it for her direct product line... whether it was soaps or candles, B&B,..I didn't ask but she stated that she has a small business.Here's what I came up with and offered her:1oz. = ($2.99)2oz. = ($4.99)4oz. = ($8.50)8oz. = ($13.50)16 oz. = ($22.95) I'm not out to make a killing this way...just worth my time and supplies, I guess.Aromatique's Price for 1/2oz is $8 even Wal-Mart price is about $1.50 for 1/4oz that's $6.00 per 1oz.I charge...1oz - $5.002oz - $7.004oz - $12.008oz - $22.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyalc Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Whoa, I think I need to re-do my plan! Thank you Candle Man! I've never priced smaller amounts of quality oils before! I had no clue! Oh well, I think I scared her away anyhow, she hasn't responded yet. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 You should not be selling uncut/concentrated Fragrance Oil directly to customers. In it's uncure form, it is NOT meant to be used in potpourri burners or as a refresher oil. You should first cut the FO with DPG and THEN sell it. It's too dangerous in its concentrated form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 You should not be selling uncut/concentrated Fragrance Oil directly to customers. In it's uncure form, it is NOT meant to be used in potpourri burners or as a refresher oil. You should first cut the FO with DPG and THEN sell it. It's too dangerous in its concentrated form.I sell it 100% un-cut with no problems and I know of a lot of other candle companies that do too, even some of the major name brands.Here is a pic of Aromatiques and it's says 100% Fragrance Oil on the back of the box. http://www.aromatique.com/ click on shop onlineBTW - I put warnings on my labels.Click pic to enlarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammafransfixins Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I sell it for the sole purpose of refreshing the scents for fixins..not for use in burners and my customers know that. I have sold some to candle makers for their candles also. I would hate to mix it with dpg and then sell to a candle maker who then gets a bad candle and is mad at me.. Ya know!Anyone can go to a site that sells oils and order whatever they want.. who's to say what they use it for.Thanks for all the info Candle Man.. YOur prices are what mine are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darindab Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 im sorry i was trying to post a new threa and it posted to this one so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 You should not be selling uncut/concentrated Fragrance Oil directly to customers. In it's uncure form, it is NOT meant to be used in potpourri burners or as a refresher oil. You should first cut the FO with DPG and THEN sell it. It's too dangerous in its concentrated form. So why is it sellable to us? What makes it dangerous? I see alot of products that say 100% Fragrance Oil. Now that I think about it, all of the "refresher oils" I have picked up say 100% FO. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeB Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Well, I'm a bit confused now. When I started selling my products, I made an appointment with a product liability lawyer and had him look over all my labeling and warnings. The only thing he had a problem with was the refresher oil, it was uncut. He told me that I could not sell a manufacturer product as a consumer product that it would have to be cut. I gave him the same argument about products on the market that say 100% Fragrance Oil, he said they are not labeled uncut and fragrance oil whether cut or uncut is still fragrance oil. Is what he told me wrong?I did look at a bottle from C&S and it is printed right on the bottle for manufacturing use only. Looked at the Aromatique site too and they sell light bulb rings on the same page as the oils. If they were uncut wouldn't some of those oils have too low of a flash point to use in a light bulb ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldehearth Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I would feel more comfortable cutting the fragrances before selling to customers. Since different fragrance oils have different flashpoints there's no telling what the customers are doing with the uncut refreshers. They could put it on any heating elements such as vacuum filters, radiators, lightbulbs, etc so I would play it safe. Uncut fragrance oils that we buy from suppliers are meant for candle and soap manufacturing, not reselling to customers. If you are going to sell uncut to customers then you really have to educate them on what they can't do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 So I wonder what your liability guy would suggest for the amount to be safely "cut". Seems like 75/25 would do. This is interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeB Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 He recommended I contact one of my suppliers.They recommended 70% cutting oil - 30% FO. If I remember correctly they told me that 70/30 was a perfume oil concentration.There is some information about refresher oils I saved the other day when I was shopping at The Candlemakers Store. Here's the link if you're interested.http://www.thecandlemakersstore.com/category/faq.candlemaking_formulas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldehearth Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 There you go, here's your answer from The Candlemaker's site. Thank you DeeB!! Better be safe than sorry."Never use straight fragrance concentrate for refresher oils. This can be dangerous for people who do not know how to properly use and store the materials. The undiluted fragrance oils are to be used in manufacturers settings only where they are handled and used properly and kept away from children and other hazards. They are much too concentrated and can be dangerous in a non commercial setting." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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