Margaritamama Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I don't like "shiny smooth" candles, much prefer mottles and rustics, so I ordered a case of IGI1274, and yesterday tried to make a few mottles. The IGI specs say you should not add anything to the wax, other than FO, as it will affect the mottle, and to leave it to cool slowly. I poured at 185 degrees, as the specs stated, and left the candles to cool overnight. When I removed them from the molds this morning...NOT ONE MOTTLED!!!! Not even a slight snowflake - perfectly smooth and translucent.... and I'm very unimpressed to say the least! What did I do wrong? I was under the impression that 1274 was the perfect wax for mottling..... Any advice from you pros would be most appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Angela7 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hmm...when I tried this wax, the supplier I got it from suggested to use 3-5 tbs. stearic per lb. I believe I used 3, and it worked great. Maybe try it once with stearic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 How much FO did you use? This is very strange. The stearic will keep the FO from "weeping out" but will not encourage the mottle. Perhaps it's the wrong wax? Sounds like you did everything right.efound this link for you http://www.candletech.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gallery;action=display;num=1107272114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 When I used this wax, I had to add the regular amount of FO that I would with other waxes, in order for it to mottle (4 to 9 % depending on the strength of the FO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaritamama Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 When I used this wax, I had to add the regular amount of FO that I would with other waxes, in order for it to mottle (4 to 9 % depending on the strength of the FO).How much would that translate to per pound? I used 1 tsp FO to a pound of wax. Too much or too little?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If that is really 1274 and didn't get contaminated with Vybar from a previous batch or something, then the only answer is not enough FO. That's suprising though because you'd normally need a pretty light touch for that wax not to mottle at all.I suppose some FOs might behave very differently, but I find the suggestion of 4-9% a little on the high side. I'd say 3-6%, with anything over that usually resulting in an oily mess. Even within that range you can sometimes get an oily mess.In other words, with a lot of FOs you'll get a mottle at 1/2 oz per lb but if 1 oz per lb doesn't do it then something weird is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaritamama Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Well, I tried again today, and I took them out of the molds a few minutes ago, with the same result. There is no chance of contamination as I cleaned the pouring pots and molds. The only things I used that had been used before, were the skewers that I use for stirring. I'm at a total loss, and really mad that I wasted money on a CASE of 1274...... I really need to get this to work......I used 1 tsp FO to 1lb 1274. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 One teaspoon? Was that a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaE Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Sounds like you need some more FO in your mix. Try using 1/2 to 1 ounce of FO per lb of wax and see what you get. One teaspoon may not be enough to get a mottle. It has to have some oil for it to mottle.DanaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 One teaspoon? Was that a typo?Think you just solved her problem Top... you need to weigh the FO, try 1 ounce on the scale, not volume. You should be good to go.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaritamama Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thank you..... maybe that's the thing..... I don't know where I got 1 tsp from?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvcandleguy Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 my suggestion would be to vary your pour temp to see if that has an affect.. also, you may want to adjust your FO. I use 1 to 1.5 in all my candles and never seem to have a problem... but if you adjust your pour temp by a few degrees you may get the mottling affect you want... HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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