Hibiscus Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 I said think because it was one ugly batch of something when I dropped it into the mold. I forgot the instructions somewhere around the applesauce stage and almost panicked while watching the oils try to separate during that period. I kept trying to remember if I was supposed to cook it through that stage and where were the mashed potatoes? and when do I allow it to sit and let the oils do their thing and omg I kept thinking about cp and how nice and smooth the mixture was compared to this. It came out ok I guess but skipped a stage but that was ok. So, this stuff has to gel? when I cleaned up afterwards all of the soap was hard and bubbly and so I'm thinking I made something very close to soap if not the real thing:o Wow I think I will do a larger batch next time because it takes so long to do it. But I have curing space issues so I want to get this right. Maybe do half cphp half cp...oh well send some really nice cphp soap angels my way if ya don't have em all tied up at your place this weekend! Quote
eugenia Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 Actuallly, you did HP (hot process). CP is cold process, CPOP is cold process, oven process but THE POINT IS..... Ta Da! You made soap, LOL. How good does that feel when you see all the bubbles in the pot you are washing?Congratulations!e Quote
CareBear Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 :bliss::bliss:Happy day!My first batch didn't follow the proscribed stages at all, and I had my computer on to the tutorial and I sweated it every minute. It came out great though!Today I tried again, didn't have the computer on, and as I look back it was a textbook batch.Go figure!I bet you made a beautiful soap! Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 7, 2006 Author Posted July 7, 2006 Well now all this time I thought that cphp stood for crock pot hot process....and of course cp..well I do know what that is:D and yeah it sure felt good to be able to wash eveything and it wasn't greasy! Quote
eugenia Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 Well now all this time I thought that cphp stood for crock pot hot process....and of course cp..well I do know what that is:D and yeah it sure felt good to be able to wash eveything and it wasn't greasy! Ya know, you are probably correct. My brain was not functioning; too many abbreviations, LOL. Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 8, 2006 Author Posted July 8, 2006 :bliss::bliss:Happy day!My first batch didn't follow the proscribed stages at all, and I had my computer on to the tutorial and I sweated it every minute. It came out great though!Today I tried again, didn't have the computer on, and as I look back it was a textbook batch.Go figure!I bet you made a beautiful soap!Ha! I bet it is beautiful:o but only because it came out alright..LOL because I don't think it will be very pretty in appearance;) Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 8, 2006 Author Posted July 8, 2006 Ya know, you are probably correct. My brain was not functioning; too many abbreviations, LOL.I know what you mean I have begun printing everything and doing my best to remember one from the other. While making that soap I thought it was going through liquid soap stages..got really confusing..LOL Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 8, 2006 Author Posted July 8, 2006 :bliss:Today I tried again, didn't have the computer on, and as I look back it was a textbook batch.Did you change recipes's on the second batch and do you think it's ok to assume that each recipe will behave the same way with each batch? Quote
CareBear Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 the first batch was 90% olive oil, 10 castor.the second batch was a mix of 6 oilsfrom what I've been told, if you keep things exactly the same you canexpect the same behavior. But this means the same temps, same ingredients, same FOs, everything. otherwise you can never be sure. Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 8, 2006 Author Posted July 8, 2006 I asked because I used this same recipe with cp and the trace was slow and it gave me time to swirl and divide the batch and just lots of playtime. I figured it might work similarly in cphp and in retrospect I did have playtime and could have done much better but being uncertain through me off but next time I will be ready:D It's a good thing I have a very small amount of experience with cp or I would have been lost!Thanks:D Quote
giedre11 Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Hibiscus reading your post made me laugh because I just made my first HP about a week or so ago...I went through the same panic when the oils seperated and I caught myself stick blending right in the crockpot at this stage! Ya, I knew better but I still panicked! You know though, my whole batch only took about 30 min from start to finish, but it was only a 3 pound batch. OK, just read my notes and I actually made this batch 6/25/06. I didn't discount any water, and the bars are still soft! They definitely are hardening up, but at this point still dentable with your finger. They turned out rather ugly but once I shaved the bottom of the soap off, it made them much more presentable. I've got to suck it up and try this again as those scents that morph in CP, should not in HP. I've read that adding a bit of glycerin in the end of the process makes the soap more "pourable". Haven't tried this yet though. Now if I could only get rid of the air holes! Bottom line is even though you can use this right away, they still need to dry out, and it's taking a while,lol. Quote
CareBear Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 you figure out how to get rid of those pesky air holes let me know. Slamming it down didn't do diddley. Maybe we are putting it into the mold too hard? I don't know.I made a batch this way and the exact same theing CP. Curious to see how they compare (in 6 weeks or so....) Quote
eugenia Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Two things will help the fluidity of HP, sugar and sodium lactate. This help with air pockets. If your mold has a lid, cover the top of the batch with saran and jam the lid on hard. If it does not, try this. Pile the soap up high, pack it and slice the ugly top off when set up. Quote
CareBear Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 I have sugar! And sodium lactate too. How much of each? Quote
Crafty1_AJ Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 One TBL of sugar ppo. Dissolve in the water BEFORE you add the lye. Quote
CareBear Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 1 tablespoon, thanks! Before hunh - ok!Anyone know about how much sodium lactate? Quote
eugenia Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 I have sugar! And sodium lactate too. How much of each?MMS says up to 1/2 oz per lb. of oils on the SL. You can subtract that amt from your water amt. Quote
Hibiscus Posted July 9, 2006 Author Posted July 9, 2006 Bottom line is even though you can use this right away, they still need to dry out, and it's taking a while,lol.Yes, it was soft when I cut it but I thought it was just the recipe because I used that same recipe with cp and it was also soft at first but after a few weeks it was nice and hard. If I were to attempt to use this soap now it would turn into a mushy mess and probably not lather as well. Ya know I was wondering about the hardness scale on the soap calc and exactly what number would be considered soft? My last three batches were 30-33 and they were very hard after a couple weeks so what is considered soft? I also made soap that was 44 and they aren't any harder than the 33 so what's that about? Quote
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