Katesmom Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Should a preservative be used in lip balm?At first I thought"NO" because it does not come into contact with water.Then again, it is a multi use product so I would have to say yes! Can someone chime in, please. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 You can use vitamin E which is a natural perservative.SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Vitamin E is not a preservative...it's an antioxidant which can help prolong the shelf life of an oil but won't keep away the ickies if water is introduced into your product.I do not preserve my lip balms but I do think there are a couple that are considered GRAS and could be used.Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Here's some great info:http://www.naturalhealthnbeauty.com/natural_preservatives.htmhttp://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/Additives/Preservative-Cosmetics.htmSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Vitamin E is not a preservative...it's an antioxidant which can help prolong the shelf life of an oil but won't keep away the ickies if water is introduced into your product.I do not preserve my lip balms but I do think there are a couple that are considered GRAS and could be used.JenThat's right it is antioxidant which is a perservative. Here's a link and I posted another one for some researching.http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/library/preservatives.aspSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Taken from that website...Vitamin E (d-alpha Tocopherol): This is a powerful antioxidant used in preserving oils and keeping them from going rancid. Be aware that there is a synthetic on the market called variously Tocopherol, Alpha Tocopherol and/or Tocopherol Acetate.Which is pretty much what I said in regards to prolonging the shelf life of an oil (ie keep it from going rancid).The website does start with the phrase "We believe..' so sorry - doesn't lend much credence.Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 FNWL is saying the same thing as I...it does extend the shelf life of your oils but that is not the same as introducing water to your product.From FNWLT-50 Vitamin E OilVitamin E contains natural antioxidants which extend the life of your products. Gamma tocopherol, a component of Vitamin E, is a great antioxidant for protecting cosmetic formulations. T-50 has a larger amount of gamma tocopherols than other forms of Vitamin E oil.While the alpha tocopherol in the 250, 1000, and 1400IU/g oils is wonderful as an in vitro antioxidant, studies show that the gamma tocopherol in the Vitamin E T-50 oil is a better antioxidant for oils/lipids in cosmetic formulations. T-50 has a higher content of gamma tocopherols and can be used at a rate of .04% or 400ppm to adequately protect your oils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 And with that fine note...we can agree to disagree!Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 To tired to argue.........o.k. we can agree to disagree.SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb_513 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Can anyone share a good place to get vit E with a reasonable price?Thanks,Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi there,I just buy mine at my local drug store or health food store.SP:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVD Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 If you are afraid of germies from the mouth and preserving lip balms due to that (meaning not something to preserve oils/butters), liqupar (plain regular liquapar-not optima, not pe) is safe for use in lip products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I understand the confusion witht the term preservative. Vitamin E is an anti-oxident that helps to keep the oils from going bad. It preserves the oils.Most people think of a preservative as an additive that will keep the little nasties from growing.IMO, both are correct uses of the term, however, just like ounce and fluid ounce, there will always be some confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbox Pantry Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I understand the confusion witht the term preservative. Vitamin E is an anti-oxident that helps to keep the oils from going bad. It preserves the oils.Most people think of a preservative as an additive that will keep the little nasties from growing.IMO, both are correct uses of the term, however, just like ounce and fluid ounce, there will always be some confusionThat was my point but you explained much better then I did:cheesy2: SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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