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Ready to toss the towel on 464, how is Green Leaf's 70/30 Blend?


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Hi all,

Well we were LOVING the 464, but now that we bought a whole 50 pounds and cranked out a load of candles to test - we are NOT loving the hot throw. :( We love the appearance, the great adhesion, and the super cold throw - but that hot throw is lacking for us. :(

I have been making soy candles for five years and I am not happy anymore. It seems as if something in soy changed over the last two years. My candles are NOT pretty anymore - so I try the 464 and the beauty came back - but the hot throw is not where we want it to be.

So, we are going to try to venture into the parasoy world for a spin. I checked out Green Leaf and saw they have a 70/30 blend. I am going to order a sample.

How is this wax? Does it have a good hot throw? How is the frosting issue with this wax?

Frustrated,

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I only tested a lb sample of the 70/30. It had a good throw and looked very nice. The top had a dip in it, but there was no frosting and it was very creamy. It also burned very well. I ordered 10lbs to test, but the shipping is so expensive on this wax that I doubt I can afford to carry it.

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I really like the GL 70/30. It pours beautifully every single time. I've had great luck with the scent throws too. I've tested lots of FOs from different suppliers in this wax and it's been awesome. There have been a few FOs that I let cure for a week but most do great after about 48 hrs. No frosting at all and a very creamy appearance.

Also, if you ever have any questions with this wax or concerns the customer service they have is the BEST!! Brenda follows up with every single question that I've seen people post on her board and this board. She's replied to every email I've sent to her in less than a day.

HTH

Suz

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I've got 10# of the GL 70/30 at my shop but have yet to try it. I've been using JS 50/50 container and votive blends and love them. Great scent throw...smooth creamy appearance and good glass adhersion; no frosting. I got the GL out of sheer curiosity.. it would take a lot to have me change from my JS 50/50.

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This wax is wonderful. Beautiful, creamy appearance, great hot throw (although like with most soy waxes, you will need to let some FO's cure for a week or two to get the best throw possible), and the customer service at GL is second to none. Brenda is amazing. You can email her a question, or post it on her board, and I will guarantee an answer within an hour or two max (except when she is sleeping, that is).

I just ordered a pallet of this stuff and it should be arriving at our warehouse next week. So far, I haven't had a single FO that has NOT thrown well in this wax.

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breanna,

I wouldn't worry. This is the only person I have seen with a problem with the hot throw. Everyone I have talked to has said the hot throw is the best thing about the 464. You can not compare a para soy blend with all vegi blend.

THANK YOU!!! I was a tad worried there for a minute!!!,,,Okay Im opening the box NOW!!! LOL,,Thanks Jason!!!

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It is impossible for me to get this wax, as shipping 50lbs boxes would be horrifically expensive, but I would like to try a parasoy blend. Is this 70 soy 30 paraffin or vice versa?

Any help on how to replicate a wax like this would be appreciated. The wax refinery in the UK where I get my waxes from only imports EcoSoya, so unless Greenleaf wanted to start shipping in bulk to them, I'll never get it.

If you have any idea on the type of paraffin and what ecosoya I can use, I'd be grateful to hear about it. Please feel free to PM me if you don't want to divulge your blend on the boards - I'm in the UK so I won't be a threat to your business!

Thanks,

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Can you get any of the IGI waxes in the UK? Their 6x series of waxes are soy/paraffin blends. Otherwise you can try just mixing your own. You can use paraffin as an additive, meaning just enough to "stabilize" your soy, or you can go higher - some people use it 50/50. I've never done my own blend (too lazy), but if I were, I would try it first with the lowest meltpoint straight paraffin I could get, if I couldn't get that I would try using a blended container paraffin.

Here's a place that sells some IGI waxes ("American" as they call them). Looks like its expensive though.

Are you aware of this group? http://www.candlemaking.org.uk/cms.html Perhaps they can assist you more in finding what you want in the UK?

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Hi There,

IGI are not available in this country unless it's from a small time seller who has imported it themselves - therefore it costs up to $20 per kilo. I buy 50kg at a time so I could in no way pay those prices. I have heard of that forum, but it's not actually that good - there are only a couple of UK suppliers shown on there, and their prices are sky high - the rest of it, despite supposedly being a UK based site, is all about US suppliers of FO and candlemaking equipment, which I think pretty much defeats the object. The forum that was set up by the same person on yahoo is also 95% American participants, despite being a UK forum. I find this forum to be the best around and the most helpful - but I don't think anyone can help me in my quest to get other brand waxes at a reasonable shipped price.

There is yet to be a forum that actually IS only UK based and specialises in showing UK suppliers. The reason for that I suppose, is that all the UK suppliers just buy their items from the USA then slap on a very hefty charge whereas it's cheaper and easier for me to buy from stuff from the USA, except wax, which I get directly from a wax supplier in bulk.

Thanks for the advice though!

Can you get any of the IGI waxes in the UK? Their 6x series of waxes are soy/paraffin blends. Otherwise you can try just mixing your own. You can use paraffin as an additive, meaning just enough to "stabilize" your soy, or you can go higher - some people use it 50/50. I've never done my own blend (too lazy), but if I were, I would try it first with the lowest meltpoint straight paraffin I could get, if I couldn't get that I would try using a blended container paraffin.

Here's a place that sells some IGI waxes ("American" as they call them). Looks like its expensive though.

Are you aware of this group? http://www.candlemaking.org.uk/cms.html Perhaps they can assist you more in finding what you want in the UK?

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