jmspgh Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I have been looking for some new "higher end" candle containers to try and I really like the looks of the ones by Dream Vessels. The past few months most of their containers have either been out of stock or pre-order only. Is this common for them or is it because of all the COVID related shipping delays? Any other suggestions as to where I could find some containers similar to theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisS Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I bought from them initially when their warehouse was in California, and I got a smokin' deal on jars when they relocated to Tennessee and were liquidating. Based upon what I've seen, they're a small business doing the best that they can. I wouldn't feel comfortable depending on them for JIT supplies. If I were the type to stockpile/hoard in advance, there wouldn't be an issue. No suggestion for alternate suppliers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellajoan Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I've also been looking into Dream Vessels. KrisS, were they difficult to wick? Were you happy with the quality? Thinking of adding a more upscale line to our etsy shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GailC Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I never heard of Dream Vessels until an ad appeared on my Facebook feed. My daughter LOVES anything rose gold so I ordered two designs to make candles for her for Christmas. They won't ship until around Oct 8. I had a hard time choosing; they are all so lovely. They are too expensive for me to use for customers though. There was a 10% off code on the Facebook ad: FLASHSALE10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I've bought from them and liked the vessels I received. I just went on a hiatus and haven't used them yet though but getting back into it. I will say that I am involved in packaging for the food industry in my day job and it is a complete nightmare right now. Packaging materials from overseas are getting stuck at the border longer than ever and even our domestic suppliers can't keep up with demand at all. This goes for glass, PET and paperboard/cardboard. It is especially hard for smaller scale companies like my day job and also dream vessels. Hopefully people understand and don't come down too harshly on DV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmspgh Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 I bought some of their nova jars to try (no lids since they were out of stock). I'm doing wick tests now but the quality of the jars seems much nicer than the ones I was previously using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisS Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 10:21 AM, ellajoan said: I've also been looking into Dream Vessels. KrisS, were they difficult to wick? Were you happy with the quality? Thinking of adding a more upscale line to our etsy shop. I think it depends on the wax and wicks you're using. Some have issues. Others don't. It's like everything else in the candle world--test, test, retest. On 9/13/2020 at 8:02 AM, Lana said: I've bought from them and liked the vessels I received. I just went on a hiatus and haven't used them yet though but getting back into it. I will say that I am involved in packaging for the food industry in my day job and it is a complete nightmare right now. Packaging materials from overseas are getting stuck at the border longer than ever and even our domestic suppliers can't keep up with demand at all. This goes for glass, PET and paperboard/cardboard. It is especially hard for smaller scale companies like my day job and also dream vessels. Hopefully people understand and don't come down too harshly on DV. My jars are currently in a storage bin with 95% of my property--yay, prepping the house for sale. Your comment about packaging is exactly why I made the statement I did about them. While I feel like they're seeing challenges simply as a small business, I feel like they're also seeing things held up in customs, which is completely outside their span of control. Until the import situation improves, I'm not willing to attribute stock and shipment dates to anything other than border delays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleRush Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I use many of their vessels. The quality is a few steps above the typical containers. Yes there is an ongoing stock issue but I’ve learned to adapt meaning I offer a wide variety of containers from more than one place. California candle supply, flaming candle, Aztec candle have also been struggling in keeping containers in stock. But it’s not an issue on their end. I’d say keep an open mind, have a few containers from different vendors so you don’t rely on just one jar. As far as wicking, they are like all containers, you have to test.🌸 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlecraftshop Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Speaking of DV, I have a four caseS of the fleur/pineapple containers and using coco apricot creme from WW - has anybody wicked that container? I only have 5 lbs of the coco apricot creme and probably won’t buy more because of the logistical nightmare of buying stuff from the states (I’m in Canada). Because it’s 3in at the top and about 1.5in at the bottom, I was thinking of starting with HTP 83. Do you think that would be too big? I’m going to use a longneck tab so there’s more wax left before the container gets too hot. Thoughts? Advise? Ty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmspgh Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 sorry @candlecraftshop I have only tried the nova and ziva so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa11 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, candlecraftshop said: Speaking of DV, I have a four caseS of the fleur/pineapple containers and using coco apricot creme from WW - has anybody wicked that container? I only have 5 lbs of the coco apricot creme and probably won’t buy more because of the logistical nightmare of buying stuff from the states (I’m in Canada). Because it’s 3in at the top and about 1.5in at the bottom, I was thinking of starting with HTP 83. Do you think that would be too big? I’m going to use a longneck tab so there’s more wax left before the container gets too hot. Thoughts? Advise? Ty! Yeah if its a 3” diameter HTP-83 maybe even a 72 would be good. Ive only seen pictures of those it seems bigger that 3inches. Maybe because I’ve seen a lot of people double wick them? @jmspgh You lucked out with the lids being out of stock. The Nova jars are really nice but the lids OOF! I wouldn’t even call it a lid just a plastic disc that loosely sits on top. I gave them to someone for free who was looking for them. Look at Sixteenseventeen.com for nice jars comparable to Dream Vessels maybe better. I have a ton of jars I got for a killer deal so I’m not looking but I like their look and if I was looking I would go there. They are Based out of San Francisco, CA owner is extremely nice, I think they offer free shipping over a certain amount too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmspgh Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Marisa11 said: @jmspgh Nova jars are really nice but the lids OOF! I wouldn’t even call it a lid just a plastic disc that loosely sits on top. Look at Sixteenseventeen.com for nice jars comparable to Dream Vessels maybe better. Actually on my last order I did get some of the nova lids and I was very very underwhelmed. I think the glass quality is great but the lids feel really cheap compared to the jars... Which is crazy because the lids are more expensive!! I knew they were going to be plastic based on the description but I was hoping for more based on the quality of the jars. I was going to try finding an alternate lid (metal? cork?) to use with the nova but haven't had a chance yet. I have looked at sixteen seventeen but haven't ordered anything to try yet. From what I can remember they seemed a little more expensive than dream vessels which was already at the top of my container budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa11 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 @jmspgh I agree they are pricey. I went and looked after I posted. But that is with the lids included. They might have removed the free shipping over a certain amount too. So are you just testing in the Nova jars because I have testing notes on those. I have 2 more testers in Nova that are ready to start wick testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlecraftshop Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 19 hours ago, Marisa11 said: Yeah if its a 3” diameter HTP-83 maybe even a 72 would be good. Ive only seen pictures of those it seems bigger that 3inches. Maybe because I’ve seen a lot of people double wick them? @jmspgh You lucked out with the lids being out of stock. The Nova jars are really nice but the lids OOF! I wouldn’t even call it a lid just a plastic disc that loosely sits on top. I gave them to someone for free who was looking for them. Look at Sixteenseventeen.com for nice jars comparable to Dream Vessels maybe better. I have a ton of jars I got for a killer deal so I’m not looking but I like their look and if I was looking I would go there. They are Based out of San Francisco, CA owner is extremely nice, I think they offer free shipping over a certain amount too. Wow. A single 72? I poured a few last night and they turned out so pretty with the coco apricot creme that i dont want to test burn it😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa11 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 @candlecraftshop yeah a 72 or 83 might work if your inner diameter is about 3” aren’t the pineapples kind of shallow? I’ve never seen one in person. Are you adamant about just HTP? Paper core was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlecraftshop Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 7:42 PM, Marisa11 said: @candlecraftshop yeah a 72 or 83 might work if your inner diameter is about 3” aren’t the pineapples kind of shallow? I’ve never seen one in person. Are you adamant about just HTP? Paper core was awesome. Mostly because hemorrhaging money - I just want to make this work so I don’t have to buy yet another set of wicks 😂 these are the pineapples with htp 83 and coco apricot from WW. First burn x 4 hrs, and definitely tunnelled. HT nonexistent. 2nd burn today, starting to get HT, tunnel apparent but will wait and see if the flame catches up. Still wary about the diameter tapering from 3in to 1.5in at the bottom, so I will burn these puppies down to check before switching to 93. They’re so pretty though. Flame is so still, I love it! There is that infamous htp lean though, the burn is uneven. Wondering if I should take that into account when centering the wick?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa11 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Yeah definitely wick up. I think because it’s so shallow too you aren’t going to get the same heat you would from a taller vessel once the wick is lower. I used an HTP-72 the other night and it was too small but I can’t find my HTP-83 wicks. I’m usually good about putting them away in the right place and I don’t think I used them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlecraftshop Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Marisa11 said: Yeah definitely wick up. I think because it’s so shallow too you aren’t going to get the same heat you would from a taller vessel once the wick is lower. I used an HTP-72 the other night and it was too small but I can’t find my HTP-83 wicks. I’m usually good about putting them away in the right place and I don’t think I used them all. Here is the second burn, 5hrs, no wick trimming prior to starting the burn pink has the biggest MP blue is starting to catch up white has the smallest MP and most tunnelling - i think it’s because I cut the wick too short to start HT was bomb, but that’s cuz all 3 were lit😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa11 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Dyes also can have an affect on wicking too. You will never stop learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlecraftshop Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Yeah, I see that. Do dyes generally make it more flammable? I noticed that paraffin will burn hotter than soy based on my very limited experience, and some FOs (like bayberry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmspgh Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 I am looking for some alternative lids for the nova jars. i like the jars but am not impressed with the lids (even tho they are more expensive than the jars themselves). I think i found some corks that may work but was looking for a metal low profile lid as well. any suggestions on where to look would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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