AustinCandleMaker Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I've made some with IGI-6006 (unimpressed), GW 464 (troublesome) I'm thinking of trying a Coconut blend. Not sure which one. There are many reasons to search for the "right" wax as i have learned. The primary reason i'm still searching is because of color. If I'm going to make a go of it to make some money and/or make it a business, i have a particular initial market to start in. I think it's a great launch point. Rather than Craft fair and such. Or being just another candle maker with a website or on Etsy. My initial market is what i plan on using to drive people to my website. Here's the kicker. It REQUIRES to have vibrant colors. I need a RED red, BLACK black, ORANGE orange. Those are the most difficult so far. I need to have bright/true colors as close as possible. Forget Soy. 6006 didn't do it either. I slightly "overloaded" the colors for the recommended portions. I could overload them more but that's not going to change the soy results. I have also heard that if you overload too much, it could "clog" your wick. Don't know if that's true or not. Just because you hear/see it on the internet doesn't make it true. Man I wish more people understood that. But that's a totally different conversation. I digress... I am currently using Liquid Dyes from LoneStar. I have heard that using blocks might give better colors. What do you recommend? What source? Man that was a lot. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Easiest will be translucent waxes, like some paraffins. It is what yankee, McCalls, etc. use. soy is too opaque (errs toward pastels) and leaves potential for graining/frosting even in small quantities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinCandleMaker Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thanks @TallTayl. Any suggestion on a wax? I know a lot of people do not use Dyes. I don't plan to for my Luxury candles. But do you have a suggestion for dyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4627, 4630, 4786 all color easily 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I use liquids from rustic escentuals or bittercreek north mostly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I've noticed when I put any amount of soy in my clams, even if 80% is paraffin, the color is so muted. Like TallTayl said, use paraffin. It colors so much better in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah S Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Agree with the posts above. Paraffin will get you brilliant colors, especially a bright white blend like 4630. I also love the way palm wax holds color, the crystallization is beautiful with some dye to bring it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura C Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 If you want to use liquid dyes, I recall some people on here saying that the "EVO" dyes are good and don't have a horrible smell like some of the other liquid dyes. I have not tested them myself. https://www.candlewic.com/store/category.aspx?q=c73&title=Liquid-Candle-Dye,-Colors-and-Pigments https://vacandlesupply.com/Liquid-Dye-for-Candlemaking-By-EVO_p_350.html Here's a previous post on this topic: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyBee Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 In order to achieve bright/vibrant colors, you will want to look at wax whiteners called WhiteTech by French Color & Fragrance Company. Think of it as a paint primer. In order to get close to true Black/Black color, you will need it no matter what type of wax you choose. http://www.frenchcolor.com/wax-whiteners/ I don't dye my candles. You will have to contact them for instruction & locate distributor in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnKush Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 11:05 AM, AustinCandleMaker said: I've made some with IGI-6006 (unimpressed), GW 464 (troublesome) I'm thinking of trying a Coconut blend. Not sure which one. There are many reasons to search for the "right" wax as i have learned. The primary reason i'm still searching is because of color. If I'm going to make a go of it to make some money and/or make it a business, i have a particular initial market to start in. I think it's a great launch point. Rather than Craft fair and such. Or being just another candle maker with a website or on Etsy. My initial market is what i plan on using to drive people to my website. Here's the kicker. It REQUIRES to have vibrant colors. I need a RED red, BLACK black, ORANGE orange. Those are the most difficult so far. I need to have bright/true colors as close as possible. Forget Soy. 6006 didn't do it either. I slightly "overloaded" the colors for the recommended portions. I could overload them more but that's not going to change the soy results. I have also heard that if you overload too much, it could "clog" your wick. Don't know if that's true or not. Just because you hear/see it on the internet doesn't make it true. Man I wish more people understood that. But that's a totally different conversation. I digress... I am currently using Liquid Dyes from LoneStar. I have heard that using blocks might give better colors. What do you recommend? What source? Man that was a lot. 🙂 I have tried all of those waxes, and without adding anything such as whitener, the 4786 is the best wax for color. If you want to see how orange looks in 4786 log onto the facebook group for craftserver. I just posted 2 videos showing how high flames get in 4786. The color is incredible. I think I only used 3 drops of liquid orange per lb that I purchased from Candle Science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnKush Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Correcting my answer. I think probably the 4627 and the 4786 are the best for the vibrant colors. Leaning more toward the 4627. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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