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On 12/17/2019 at 7:59 AM, franu61 said:

I have not tried these.  I did love the millennium wax, but with shipping, it got too expensive for me. The freedom is a little better price, I may have to try some.  Wish they'd say what's in it.

I used Millennium for several years (5 years) from Enchanted Lites. Yes, it got very expensive and when I sold my storefront I couldn't buy in bulk like I used to. I've been using Midwest straight for my Soy candles and use it in my proprietary blend for my parasoy.

 

i don't know that I want to try a new wax, but I was wondering if anyone knows since I buy from them. 

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On 12/17/2019 at 8:26 AM, TallTayl said:

Didn‘t ASO recently announce the production of GB464 in pellet form? Between this and the microwave soy offered on the site, not sure if the new waxes are not just something “old” repackaged into something “new”.

 

I don't know? 🤷‍♀️

 

I use their Midwest and they have added some "new" ("old") and I thought I'd see if anyone here has tried it. I do like the pellet form that Midwest is sold in. It's so easy!

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I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

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8 hours ago, Wax Boy said:

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

Thanks for taking one for the team. 

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When I picked up my last order at their facility, (April 2019) they were in the process of adding 'new' Soy products. The owner told me that much, but no details. She said it would be out before the end of the year (2019). I'd be very surprised if they were just repackaging somebody else's product. They have conveyer belts with overhead equipment that drops liquid wax that dries into the pellet forms. HUGE and impressive. It's made in the building where I pick it up.

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On 1/16/2020 at 12:45 AM, Wax Boy said:

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

Can you give us your likes and dislikes about Freedom wax from ASO.  Like you...I have a local supplier that carries it, so I'm really interested in your thoughts about it.

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On 1/17/2020 at 10:10 AM, Soy-N-Suds said:

When I picked up my last order at their facility, (April 2019) they were in the process of adding 'new' Soy products. The owner told me that much, but no details. She said it would be out before the end of the year (2019). I'd be very surprised if they were just repackaging somebody else's product. They have conveyer belts with overhead equipment that drops liquid wax that dries into the pellet forms. HUGE and impressive. It's made in the building where I pick it up.

There was an announcement a few months back that they are producing 464 in pellet form. They could contract manufacture/ produce lots of waxes in their facility. 

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On 1/15/2020 at 11:45 PM, Wax Boy said:

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

I'm wondering with some time passing and perhaps some more testing if you have more specifics on the Freedom Soy?

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I will definitely share my thoughts after I complete some more testing.  As of now i get completely different results every pour. All processes and room temps are the exact same. I took a break to clear my mind and get a fresh start. 

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On 1/16/2020 at 12:45 AM, Wax Boy said:

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

That is interesting as I was told in the past that their millenium is the midwest with botanical blend.  The freedom is 464 in pellet form and I know this because the tab in my search bar says 464 when I click on their freedom wax link.

 

 

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On 12/18/2019 at 9:21 PM, Soy-N-Suds said:

I used Millennium for several years (5 years) from Enchanted Lites. Yes, it got very expensive and when I sold my storefront I couldn't buy in bulk like I used to. I've been using Midwest straight for my Soy candles and use it in my proprietary blend for my parasoy.

 

i don't know that I want to try a new wax, but I was wondering if anyone knows since I buy from them. 

Which wick do you like with straight Midwest if you don't mind sharing?  

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On 2/29/2020 at 12:55 PM, lovelyscents said:

Which wick do you like with straight Midwest if you don't mind sharing?  

The LX series is working the best for me. I tested with HTP, CD, RRD, ECO, and LX. The LX outperformed the other brands in all categories: Great Flame, No CB's, Very Good to Excellent HT and CT, and Zero Soot.

 

I've tested quite a few in 8oz flint jar, 2.5"w, and LX10 or LX12 have worked depending on the fragrance.

 

I've tested only a few fragrances in pint jars and they have ranged from LX12, LX14, and LX16.

 

I use 6% FO, date the jar, and put them on a shelf for 3 months before burning. Often the are 4-5 months before I light them.

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55 minutes ago, Soy-N-Suds said:

I use 6% FO, date the jar, and put them on a shelf for 3 months before burning. Often the are 4-5 months before I light them.

3 months!? I admire your patience!  I thought 2 weeks was a hard wait. :)

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On 12/18/2019 at 9:21 PM, Soy-N-Suds said:

I realy have problem.with the millenium wax ive always work with q230 and i never had problems.  with millenium i dont have a lot of  HT with 9% sometimes 12. I pour at 115 F . Im not realy impress can somedy told me and help to me work with this one? Sorry my english is.bad im gros canada and Aldo i would like to know how do you think.is the freedom.wax? On so sad because my wax ive always use the compagny are close... thanks

 

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Wow!! I feel deliberately deceived! I called ASO and talked with them about their waxes because I am looking for something new. I was having issues with 464 after like 5 years of having a perfect setup. It seems like the past 6 months there is no hot throw. The lady on the phone said she didn’t know anything about 464, but recommended their Freedom wax since the melt point and pour temps were similar and I would be familiar with working with it.  Now I’m finding out Freedom is 464 after I just bought 45lbs.?!? 

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On 8/23/2020 at 6:25 PM, KReeD said:

Wow!! I feel deliberately deceived! I called ASO and talked with them about their waxes because I am looking for something new. I was having issues with 464 after like 5 years of having a perfect setup. It seems like the past 6 months there is no hot throw. The lady on the phone said she didn’t know anything about 464, but recommended their Freedom wax since the melt point and pour temps were similar and I would be familiar with working with it.  Now I’m finding out Freedom is 464 after I just bought 45lbs.?!? 

Have you had a chance to try the "Freedom"? Since you are familiar with 464 you'd probably know if they are the same. I really like the Midwest for my 100% soy candles, but I am curious. 

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