candlesinflorida Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Any thoughts totally appreciated on this situation: I have a customer who approved a sample candle, and asked me to make 65 more for their store. The sample was made with FO from a 20lb vat (huge plastic container from fragrance company) and 444 wax. I used the same materials to make the 65 candles. However, at one point, I needed more wax and the company I order from sent 464 "by accident" because they were sold out of 444. It was a rainy, hot week and the 464 wasn't as flaky as it should be. It arrived all chunky and a bit smushy. Not good. I never shook/stirred the fragrance oil. I just poured from the top of the vat, about 10 ounces at a time, into a smaller container. Now the store tells me that some of the candles don't smell the same as others. It sounds like there are just different notes that are stronger in some, less in others. I am wondering whether it is the wax change (444 and 464 are "basically the same" according to the wax distributor...although I don't believe that they are identical or they would have the same number!) Can the FO "change" when it sits in a plastic vat and is not stirred prior to use; like could some of the chemicals "sink" to the bottom, and therefore different scents would predominate? Any advice from the veterans, on this? I suppose I should have stirred the 20 lbs more, but I didn't. Just wondering if that is how to avoid this, next time? Edited September 21, 2019 by candlesinflorida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Fo can separate into components though not many seem to have specific gravity components to do such. I habitually shake all vats before decanting Different wax lots can and do smell different and can change the overall scent. As can heating temp variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesinflorida Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 21 hours ago, TallTayl said: Fo can separate into components though not many seem to have specific gravity components to do such. I habitually shake all vats before decanting Different wax lots can and do smell different and can change the overall scent. As can heating temp variations. Thanks- when you say “decant”, do you do anything special other than pouring it into a smaller, more manageable container? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, candlesinflorida said: Thanks- when you say “decant”, do you do anything special other than pouring it into a smaller, more manageable container? Depends on the size of the drum. If I can lift, then shake and pour into smaller bottles. If I can’t, then I have a pump to tap the keg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesinflorida Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, TallTayl said: Depends on the size of the drum. If I can lift, then shake and pour into smaller bottles. If I can’t, then I have a pump to tap the keg. Do you do everything by stirring in pouring pots-or you have large melting equipment/agitators/hoses for pouring etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, candlesinflorida said: Do you do everything by stirring in pouring pots-or you have large melting equipment/agitators/hoses for pouring etc? Everything is mixed in Pour pots. The way I quick cool my wax before pouring works best this way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesinflorida Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 hours ago, TallTayl said: Everything is mixed in Pour pots. The way I quick cool my wax before pouring works best this way. “quick cooling” like the freezer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesinflorida Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 hours ago, TallTayl said: Depends on the size of the drum. If I can lift, then shake and pour into smaller bottles. If I can’t, then I have a pump to tap the keg. Never thought of a pump. I have been trying to carefully pour without splashing. Not so good at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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