karinz40 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I I am trying to get the right wick for an 8 oz mason jar 2 1/2/ inches wide and a 4 oz mason jar again 2 1/2 inches wide. Am using CBL 125 and love this wax but the wicks I am trying dance so much the jar gets so hot at the top I'm afraid to let it keep burning. No air conditioning on, no opens doors. Used Candle science FO Cactus Flower and Jade. An amazing scent and strong These are the wicks I have tried that dance around. RRD 37 , RRD 40, HTP 73 , HTP 83, Zinc 44-36-18, Zinc 51-32-18, 51-32-18 premier 750 Where AM i GOING WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 There's a million things really... Is it bobbing around from the initial lighting or only as it burns down into the jar? Did you trim your wick? How long has it cured? What FO load? Dye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Bobbing as it burns, Was n new wick. I do not wick the jar when pouring but poke a hole and try the wick first. Cured 2 weeks poured 2 8 oz and 1 4 oz used .7 fo for all total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah S Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hm, the HTP 73 should be a great wick for that combo. The Premier 750 should be good too, so I don't think over wicking is the issue, at least not for those two. And that's about 6% -7% load, which is well within that wax's capacity... I think the issue is probably just the narrower neck of the mason jar and the air currents created by the heat of the flame. I expect some dancing with a viscous wax like this, as the wicks have to burn pretty hot to get a good draw. Sometimes when I have a double wicked container, the flames go sideways, lol. Is it bad enough that it's affecting the quality of the burn? Are they poofing soot? The top of the jar getting hot, is that for all the wicks? The HTP 83 is a little big, that might be part of the issue with that one. I ditched mason jars pretty early on in my candle making, they are super convenient, which is appealing, but I was never very happy with the way they burned. Just IMO! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 not effecting th the quality of the burn and the scent is pretty good. No soot but the top of the jar is getting hot and I'm afraid will brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 forgot to ask What kind of containers do you use?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah S Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I mostly use 16oz straight sided jars and 16oz salsa jars. I've used Status jars, 8oz tumblers, apothecary jars in various sizes, large candle bowls, and more, but the straight jars are my favorite for a simple easy candle. 😊💕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 So i am burning another v2 8 oz mason jar candle with same parameters but using s HTP 83 because I used .9 oz of oil in them. They are still when lit and dance a little but look bettr thabn the 733 did earlier today o the others. Do you think to dangerous to use the 83? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah S Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 12 hours ago, karinz40 said: So i am burning another v2 8 oz mason jar candle with same parameters but using s HTP 83 because I used .9 oz of oil in them. They are still when lit and dance a little but look bettr thabn the 733 did earlier today o the others. Do you think to dangerous to use the 83? Not at all, if it's burning well. Could be that FO needs the bigger wick. Keep testing, see how it does when it gets closer to the bottom, that part of the burn is always the determining factor for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintguru Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Dancing when you're down within a deeper container is usually an airflow issue, not necessarily a wick issue. Obviously, you need to make sure you have the right size wick, but even if it is the right size, I still get dancing in my 9 oz straight sided jar when I'm 1/2 way in or more. I've always assumed there is no getting around this without a candle topper, but perhaps I'm wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak Wolf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I have been having the same issue with 464 wax in 8oz jelly jars, 8 oz amber straight sided jars - my candles burn nice and steady until about 1/4-1/3 down the jar, then the flames dance after than consistently. My candles are burning nicely, no soot, smoke, not too hot, just wasnt sure if i was doing something wrong either as i tried different FOs at 6% and wick combos (Premier 750s, CD8, ECO 8/10) no dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Dancing if not throwing soot seems totally acceptable to me. Commercial candles dance too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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