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Palm wax 101 - wicking and more

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Well I got my first batch of container palm from Candlewic and made up some tins.  Here's a pic of my first wicks that I threw in.  I know palm stays central for a while, but what is the best way to know if wicks are behaving correctly all the way through?  Same as every other candle (no residual on the side, reasonable flame size, etc.)?  I love the look and how easy it is to work with...but the wicking looks...interesting.  

 

 

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I have a devil of a time with palm in tins. Tins just conduct that heat away too quickly to catch up to the short height vs width. To get the wax to all burn in a tin you’ll need a pretty massive wick. I’ve even tried wide wooden wicks which left significant hang up. Palm definitely prefers glass which insulates the heat and dimensions that are tall and narrower.

 

Could try double wicking, or just use glass for palm where it truly loves to be. 

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Good to know!  I plan to offer glass jars mostly anyways, I was just using the tins to get my feet wet.  If they will hurt me more than help me, I'll just move to my small jars.  

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I’m sure someone on here will prove me wrong, but glass has always worked best for me with container palm. 🤣

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I’ve never tried palm in a tin before. I have used it in 9oz hex jars and found Eco 8s and 10s work best for me. 

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I've never tried palm in tins either, just glass.

It does burn downward more than outward though.

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I have to echo what others have said. Palm just isn't suited for tins on many levels. If you plan to eventually sell these candles you should start out by testing in glass containers. I find straight sided containers work the best.

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Just now, Candybee said:

I have to echo what others have said. Palm just isn't suited for tins on many levels. If you plan to eventually sell these candles you should start out by testing in glass containers. I find straight sided containers work the best.

 

Yup, I already have two 9 oz straight sided jars running with CD14 and 16 respectively.  So far I like the entire system, even though the delay in melting the sides into a full melt pool is "weird to me".  I think I may land either with a CD16 or 18 as an unscented baseline depending on how the 16 finishes off the jar (it had burned half way down).  After that, we'll see how scent throw goes.

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8 minutes ago, Paintguru said:

 

Yup, I already have two 9 oz straight sided jars running with CD14 and 16 respectively.  So far I like the entire system, even though the delay in melting the sides into a full melt pool is "weird to me".  I think I may land either with a CD16 or 18 as an unscented baseline depending on how the 16 finishes off the jar (it had burned half way down).  After that, we'll see how scent throw goes.

 

The 9oz SS jars work really great with palm. I have used them many times myself. I am now using the 12oz jar and still working on the wick. 

 

CD's should give you a nice HT but I didn't like the curl on the wick when it burned which made one side of the jar way to hot for me personal taste. I would go ahead continue testing with your current wicks to the very end of the candle. YOu are wicking for the last half of the candle especially for that size jar. You should notice it burns very differently in the final half than in the first half. Don't wick for the first half, wick for the second half.

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30 minutes ago, Candybee said:

 

The 9oz SS jars work really great with palm. I have used them many times myself. I am now using the 12oz jar and still working on the wick. 

 

CD's should give you a nice HT but I didn't like the curl on the wick when it burned which made one side of the jar way to hot for me personal taste. I would go ahead continue testing with your current wicks to the very end of the candle. YOu are wicking for the last half of the candle especially for that size jar. You should notice it burns very differently in the final half than in the first half. Don't wick for the first half, wick for the second half.

 

The curl has been okay thus far for me (only one test though), and I like how well they're staying nice and trimmed.  I did order some CSN wicks as well to try.  My other target jar is a 16 oz country comfort jar, which I assume will require a double or even triple wick.  

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Well I think I've landed on CD 20 as my baseline for the 9 oz straight sided jar.  Now I need to run it through my fragrances to see if that shifts things.  

 

I do like the wax thus far; at least how it burns and looks.  

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