Daisymay66 Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 I have been trying to find a dupe of this forever! Anyone have any suggestions? 1 Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 Me too Daisy...Been waiting far too long. I have decided to try and get this duped. Flaming doesn't do that, but I heard Fragrance Buddy does. I have no idea what I have to give them to dupe, how much it costs, how much have to buy, etc. Maybe someone here can advise. Do they need the oil to dupe or can I give them a sample of the wax? Trappeur 2 Quote
TallTayl Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 When having a fragrance duped, it’s best to send in a sample of the actual fragrance. My lab needs one full ounce. The fragrance goes into a gas spectrometer, which atomizes the fragrance, and reads the fumes in the chamber. Then they recreate the elements of the fragrance gasses in a fragrance “oil” with carrier. If sending in a wax sample, you’d get the wax notes in the finished product. Plus. The fragrance would be pretty diluted since the concentrated fragrance elements will be at a smaller ratio to the wax. 1 Quote
kandlekrazy Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 So have you tried the S'mores from Indigo, Flaming & Candlewic? I'm sure there are others as well. I can't remember now what McCalls smells like. Also, RE has a blending thing on their site and I'm pretty sure I used theirs to make my own. Quote
GoldieMN Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, TallTayl said: When having a fragrance duped, it’s best to send in a sample of the actual fragrance. My lab needs one full ounce. The fragrance goes into a gas spectrometer, which atomizes the fragrance, and reads the fumes in the chamber. Then they recreate the elements of the fragrance gasses in a fragrance “oil” with carrier. So a person could send them an ounce from their reed diffuser bottles? Then you need to see if what is duped will even work with your wax I guess. GoldieMN Quote
TallTayl Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: So a person could send them an ounce from their reed diffuser bottles? Then you need to see if what is duped will even work with your wax I guess. GoldieMN Technically, yes, but then you’re again stuck with notes from whatever base they use in the reed diffuser. And it would be diluted. Its easier to work with a fragrance lab to find something close to what you’re looking for already if you do not ave the original fo concentrate to work with. Any fragrance House would already have numerous “s’mores” blends to pick from. Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, GoldieMN said: So a person could send them an ounce from their reed diffuser bottles? Then you need to see if what is duped will even work with your wax I guess. GoldieMN Bingo! You were reading my mind exactly Goldie....I was thinking the exact same thing as that would be closer to the oil....that's what I'm thinking! Trappeur Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 Since you do this all the time TT with your duping, could you do this for us with your lab? How much would we have to order? And how much would it cost? Trappeur 1 Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, TallTayl said: Technically, yes, but then you’re again stuck with notes from whatever base they use in the reed diffuser. And it would be diluted. Its easier to work with a fragrance lab to find something close to what you’re looking for already if you do not ave the original fo concentrate to work with. Any fragrance House would already have numerous “s’mores” blends to pick from. Well, we don't want close....we want exact! ha ha ha....Believe me I have tried every company out there and nothing is close. Even RE "Toasted Marshmallow" which has been at the top of their list for years and still is and everyone just loving that scent isn't like what McCalls is...I order RE once in a while just because it sells...but it's not a top seller for me. The closest that I have come to and sniffing right out of the bottle Oregon Trails I swear had the "exact" scent...or so I thought till I put in wax and didn't throw. I think I will try again with them and maybe let it cure much longer...maybe add more percentage oil. Trappeur 1 Quote
TallTayl Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Trappeur said: Since you do this all the time TT with your duping, could you do this for us with your lab? How much would we have to order? And how much would it cost? Trappeur It takes months with my place, and they are demanding more and more per Dupe. They minimally require 25 lbs pr order with that figure rising with each Dupe. In the end they want $1500 in guaranteed sales before taking on a new Dupe. I’m not sending any more to them for myself. Give fragrance buddy a holler and see what they can do. For smores, I’m blending ng graham cracker, tfc campfire marshmallow, and wsp chocolate mousse with a touch of either sc wood smoke or tfc campfire. 1 Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 Wow.....well thankyou anyway! I'll email FB and see what they require.... Thanks for the info! Trappeur Quote
Tina J Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 I see JS has a new s'mores. Anyone tried it yet? Quote
Trappeur Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 I wrote FB to find out the details on/if they would duplicate this scent just so you know. Will advise once they get back to me. Trappeur 1 Quote
Jenni Wix Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 Save on Scents has a custom fragrance service including the spectrometer thing. They have detailed process summary on their website. It looks like the service itself ranges from 175-200. 1lb required purchase or 10lb for exclusivity. I don't have experience with their custom services, but I like many of their unique/specific note/designer FO's. Quote
Trappeur Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 I've never ordered from Save On. I just always thought they were cheapy low end fragrances and no one ever talks about them . Trappeur 1 Quote
Trappeur Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 Did you see a new fragrance that just came out at Aztec called Marshmallow Fireside? Trappeur 1 Quote
katmeltswax Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Trappeur said: Did you see a new fragrance that just came out at Aztec called Marshmallow Fireside? Trappeur Lol I see your already on this one Trapp .I sent you a post earlier letting you know about this one . I thought of you the minute I received the email. I am definitely getting a pound of MF ,as I love the original from BBW . I know most of Aztec dupes are spot on to the original bbw scents . The McCalls one sounds wonderful . I hope FB will dupe this one 😉 Quote
Trappeur Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 Thanks Kat.... Well, I've tried every supplier out there. Guess 1 more wouldn't hurt. Trappeur 1 Quote
so-soy Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 That’s my favorite McCalls scent, and it used to be called Campfire Marshmallow. I liked that name better! LOL I’m interested in a dupe too, hope you find it! Quote
Trappeur Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Me too So-soy....my favorite and why they changed it to S'mores is beyond me.... Trappeur Quote
katmeltswax Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 5:27 PM, Trappeur said: Thanks Kat.... Well, I've tried every supplier out there. Guess 1 more wouldn't hurt. Trappeur 😁I am pretty sure FB will dupe this one for you .I know it will be a popular seller for them . Quote
Trappeur Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 I don't know why they won't respond to my message/email I sent them? Trappeur Quote
chevcher Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 It's been awhile since I've smelled that one, but I do remember it was yummy ! I would just get the oils and blend your own, instead of waiting for someone to possibly dupe. Especially if it's going to require a minimum purchase of that particular oil. Maybe 40 % toasted marshmallow,40 % graham cracker ,20 % of a H*****y type chocolate scent as a starting point, then adjust from there. You may even like your own blend better than the original ! 2 Quote
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