Jenni Wix Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 I guess I hadn't mentioned melt pool. These tests haven't been scienticic, but I am noticing especially with first burns, a bit deeper pool, than desired complete MP. Guessing this is coconut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) List of questions I have, be it in further testing or research. Do premiere wicks tend to curl (is it because I'm over or under wicked, or is there any hope for them in this wax)? What makes wicks curl, and how to prevent it ( i keep looking into it but don't seem to get it yet) It's really annoying as it off centers the melt pool, creating hang up on one side, too much heat on the other. Will tweaking the Eco sizes (or cD if an in between size might work) help? Do CD curl? Edited September 27, 2018 by Jenni Wix it instead of in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaH Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Interesting post, I just ordered a case of this wax for testing. The shipping was less on a case than it was on the sample. Have you tried any htp or lx wicks with this wax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 @LanaH@LanaH. Have only tried premiere and Eco so far. Interested in hearing if you have good results from others. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 @LanaH@LanaH. Have only tried premiere and Eco so far. Interested in hearing if you have good results from others. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 10:43 AM, Jenni Wix said: scienticic Not very "scientitic" at all. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaH Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I just got it today. It may be a couple of weeks before I get around to it. I'll keep you posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 I recently mentioned a problem with curling wicks off centering the MP. Well, I looked up Wick curling here on CS the other day, and saw an older post where someone said that if you can see the ^ where it's braided, the wick curls in that direction, as opposed to the v shape on the other side. I tried and tired again to find it earlier, but I couldn't for the life of me. So I decided to just give it a go without rereading it. I did it with two bare wicks and it was accurate. So I placed some wicks I'm testing out in jars a bit off center from the direction the ^ is facing, in hops to correct the centering if the melt pool. Crossing my fingers. This might be common knowledge, but I was so frustrated with curling, and essentially finding that most wicks are made to curl. Except for zinc (still wondering about cotton core) . Please correct me if I'm wrong, or if anyone knows of others that aren't designed to curl. But now that I know that it's part of the deal, and how to look for it in Ecos at least, it gives me a little hope for my jars. Premieres, I can't tell the direction of the curl (see the v's) at all in advance, so probably won't use in these. I'm hoping the ecos do ok. If not, trying CDs/CDNs. I'm basing my wick choices on C3 because, although it's a different wax, C6 is not closer to a plain coconut, I thought I'd need to wick down during my last tests, and ended up pretty underwicked. It's got soy, and palm additives (probably), and I'm suspicious that it burns somewhat similarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Well, my plain Eco tests yesterday seemed fine at first, until the second burn in 16oz SSJ with ECO 14 smoked a bunch. The Eco 8 with 8 oz SSJ jar did a bit better, but was also dancing a lot,even with wicks well trimmed. Not necessarily giving up on Eco, just n it likely to use the 14 (or 12 I've heard gives a deeper than wide MP) in that application. The off centering for curl didn't seem to help much at first, but the shape and depth of the MP was pretty good. I realized for Premiers and other curling wicks where you change see the braid, you could tell the curl direction by lighting it, marking the side and trimming the burnt part off before setting the wicks. Just ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 I need to be patient about testing these wicks, I don't think I waited pond enough on the last burns, so I'll give them at least a week. (24 hour cure my foot 😄). I want to try CDN and LX. Not sure that HTP would be all that different from CDs or CDN. I need to get a decent melt pool and not go too hot. I'm a little frustrated. I think it's just the nature of a coconut blend. So, naturally I'm thinking of adding other stuff. 😌😌😌 Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaH Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I've got some rrd's poured but will wait about a week to test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 That's the only kind I haven't gotten to try that I'd like to, so I'd love to hear how it goes @LanaH. I might post some more testing soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaDaBrat Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I recently started to make candles in general. Don’t know much about other waxes but I can tell you my experience with this one. I never had to do a double pour for these candles, never had any wick issues and I’m using Premier/Eco in my 8oz glass jars. I just made these today to test the F/O out (I used my old Glade candle jars to test instead of my stash) All of my candles so far have had F/O used in them never had any discoloration, No spots/holes.. I just have to master the F/O adding portion but other than that. I love it. • I’ve also read that the F/O load is 6-12% • Amazing Hot/Cold Throw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Nice, @LolaDaBrat! Thanks for sharing. I'm having some wicking issues but I'm glad the Ecos are working for you! I agree that it sets up so nicely. No craters, and mostly smooth tops. I got the 6% FO load from the manufacturer, with more possible with additives, but I haven't tried any higher percentages to know the effects. 6 is throwing well for me, but it could be nicer to add more if a particular fragrance needed it. My Ecos have been sometimes too hot or tunneling. But I'm not throwing in the towel yet. I feel like a container with a lip like your apothecary jar above could really help the burn even out a bit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaDaBrat Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Thank You @Jenni Wix I’m not a pro but what size wick are you using for your ECO? If I’m not mistaken I had a 6. From the company I ordered it said 6-10% F/L but everyone else says 6-12%. Ehh crap is so confusing at times. I’m literally just playing with numbers at this point. My only issue is 1st Candle I cured for 3 days, PERFECT. Made another batch measurements was low for F/O but after a few days of curing it came out okay. Not to my liking though. I prefer the Premiers though. Nice and clean, No harsh/burnt smell (I don’t know what that’s called in candle terms lol). We can get this wax down pact together! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 I agree, the premieres seem to burn with less of a smokey smell, although I've only seen visible smoke once. I'm hoping to post a pan test when I get my wicks in. Still don't have HTP and RRD though. Something's got to work, right? 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaH Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 After 2 test burns with the rrd' s, the 37 is probably to small, the 40 and 47 are burning good, but have a bit of mushrooming. I'll continue all the way with these and maybe the 37 will catch up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) How is the melt pool depth with those, @LanaH? I've got plenty of wicks I'm trying, but no RRDs. In my first pan burn test almost all were a little too deep for my liking. I was trying to wick down also, and the smaller ones were still deep, while being too narrow. I'll post those when I'm done with the second burn this evening. Edited December 18, 2018 by Jenni Wix Clarify type of test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Bright side is I have plenty of wicks for testing now. 😄 Well, except for RRD, zinc, hemp and CDN. Edited December 18, 2018 by Jenni Wix Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaH Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jenni Wix said: How is the melt pool depth with those, @LanaH? I've got plenty of wicks I'm trying, but no RRDs. In my first pan burn test almost all were a little too deep for my liking. I was trying to wick down also, and the smaller ones were still deep, while being too narrow. I'll post those when I'm done with the second burn this evening. They were a good 1/4 inch with a full melt pool. The 37 has some hang up but may catch up, we'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 @ Lana, was 1/4 inch consumed? Mine are, at least. I'll prob post tommorow morning. I'm beat. 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 C6 Wax Pan test Testing for 2-2.5 inch jars, (quilted kerr specifically). Tried to wick down. It showed. Prodding for craters sink holes revealed none. Each burn was 3 hours long. Forgot to photograph 2 burn in process, went just like the first. Both burns consumed apx 1/4 - 1/2" wax (depth). Melt pools remained apx 1/4 to 1/2 inch as well. Trimmed wicks for second burn, only LX had slight mushroom. Eco and CD smoked a bit during second burn. All in all LX was slightly less deep, while being on the wide side. It was my favorite outcome for this test. Tiny mushroom didn't cause any problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenni Wix Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 My thoughts on this wax from my experience so far.. Pros Great throw with 6% FO Smooth and forgiving to pour Affordable Cons Burns fast. I've concluded that I'd like to try this wax in a custom blend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaDaBrat Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) So my wicks started tunneling, I’m swapping between 8oz/10oz Jars about 3-3 1/2 diameter... So far Premier 760 is the best one. This is melt pool about 3 hours in. Better than the rest of my tests. Also I’m trying different FO loads which this one has 12% in it, came out smoothly. 3 Day cure HT isn’t as potent as I’ll like it to be. May have to let it sit for a week. Made a 10% one with different oil (Strawberry & Champagne) and it came out lumpy haha. Thinking I’m going to start with 6% FO load and let it cure for a week and see how it goes. Just wanted to test the max since there’s no info about this. All the sites say something different. Extremely annoying but I’m Wishing you luck on your progress! Edited December 28, 2018 by LolaDaBrat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I love the idea of this wax but disappointed that my test candles frosted on top and this only took a month. After burn not as smooth as I would like - I want smooth! Easy to use though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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