TallTayl Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I did, just to more closely simulate a "real" candle. Soy wax hardens a lot over time, so the first few days would have burned differently that if I had waited. (If that makes sense...) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debratant Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 GREAT topic, following this for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Looks like the two CD wicks has the best results, if I followed correctly. I typically use cotton wicks which weren't in the trial and I have CD's for some jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Did another burn today. Will load the pics and plan a second round with bigger versions of the failed wicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Results After three 3-HR burns. Tray 1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tray 2 after three 3-HR burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tray 2 after three 3-HR burns: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 SUMMARY Wax Wick Test C3 - Round 1 Wick MP Diameter Notes 1 CD12 2.75 Small mushrooms 2 CDN12 2.80 Small mushrooms 3 CSN12 2.25 Small mushrooms 4 CD14 2.50 Small mushrooms 5 CDN14 2.75 Small mushrooms 6 WI740 1.75 did not complete 3rd burn. 7 LX14 2.50 barely any mushrooming 8 ECO6 2.60 small mushrooms 9 44-24-18z 2.00 Massive mushrooms 10 #2/0 2.50 small mushrooms late 11 HTP73 2.00 Small mushrooms 12 HEMP1400 2.85 Massive Mushrooms 13 Non-crackle .5" wood wick 2.00 Deep MP, most discolored wax Next steps: Re-do tests with larger versions of all with MP diameter less than 2.75" Through experience, I know the CD14 & CDN14 in a tin will reach FMP in a normal amount of time. I predict these wicks will work well in the tins once the air currents are built within the tin. These same wicks may be a size too big in taller glass containers. Tests of tins and glass status jars to come. stay tuned. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Great work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clear Black Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Im not an expert at all, but I thought it was general rule of thumb to keep your wicks trimmed at 1/8"-1/4" regardless of container or wax.To ME it seems your wicks are too long in almost every picture. Now wouldnt a wick that isnt properly trimmed burn differently and thus affecting your results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) The CD and CDN are looking pretty good. I always love how an LX burns. They just make the prettiest flames IMO but I never get much in the way of scent throw with them. Interesting that the CSN is doing as well as it did. Those were designed and primed for glass glow wax and I imagine would not be ideal for C3. It might be interesting to note which wicks are primed and if you know what the priming wax is. I don't know if you have all the answers for that. Would it be possible to resize just the individual ruler measurement picks or at least from this point on?I used to be able to post smaller pics side by side. Not sure our new forum has that capability. But that would work perfectly for the ruler pics. I am just finding it a bit tough to scroll up and down through all the pics to compare them to grouping pics. Hope that makes sense. Edited February 6, 2017 by Candybee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRed Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 So great, TallTayl! Thanks for doing this experiment. Very helpful to narrow things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDee Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Wow! As a newbie yet to make a candle I never knew that there was so much involved in making candles. Lots to learn but now I know what a mushroom is. Great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Newbie Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Im looking to make a glass jar candle in a Yankee candle jar ( large) it will hold about 660g of eco soy wax. Ive been told thst a eco 16 wick should be ok to burn sufficiently. I will be buying the wick by the metre and trimming it as the company dont supply a long enough wick. Can anyone offer advice please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Guest Newbie said: Im looking to make a glass jar candle in a Yankee candle jar ( large) it will hold about 660g of eco soy wax. Ive been told thst a eco 16 wick should be ok to burn sufficiently. I will be buying the wick by the metre and trimming it as the company dont supply a long enough wick. Can anyone offer advice please? What type of advice? About tabbing the wick? Or the size? Wick size depends a lot on the dimensions of the jar and the type of wax used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Rock Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Tall Tayl: I really appreciated seeing the wick testing you did last year and wonder if you've arrived at some conclusions (mostly, did wicking up in the same wick family give you a bigger melt pool as you suspected or were there some nasty side-effects such as soot, carbon balls, or high flames?). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 2/2/2017 at 11:43 AM, TallTayl said: SUMMARY Wax Wick Test C3 - Round 1 Wick MP Diameter Notes 1 CD12 2.75 Small mushrooms 2 CDN12 2.80 Small mushrooms 3 CSN12 2.25 Small mushrooms 4 CD14 2.50 Small mushrooms 5 CDN14 2.75 Small mushrooms 6 WI740 1.75 did not complete 3rd burn. 7 LX14 2.50 barely any mushrooming 8 ECO6 2.60 small mushrooms 9 44-24-18z 2.00 Massive mushrooms 10 #2/0 2.50 small mushrooms late 11 HTP73 2.00 Small mushrooms 12 HEMP1400 2.85 Massive Mushrooms 13 Non-crackle .5" wood wick 2.00 Deep MP, most discolored wax Next steps: Re-do tests with larger versions of all with MP diameter less than 2.75" Through experience, I know the CD14 & CDN14 in a tin will reach FMP in a normal amount of time. I predict these wicks will work well in the tins once the air currents are built within the tin. These same wicks may be a size too big in taller glass containers. Tests of tins and glass status jars to come. stay tuned. this is extremely helpful! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 strange how CD12 achieved a greater melt pool than CD14 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, jfc said: strange how CD12 achieved a greater melt pool than CD14 😳 It is because the cd12 cannot draw up to burn as much wax as the cd14, so the remaining wax just melts more around the flame. Does not make 12 a “better” choice at all. Hot throw is created by the wick being able to fully combust that melted fuel and “throw” it into the air. As the candle with the 12 in this case continues to burn the tendency is for it to keep developing a deeper and deeper melt pool which actually makes the melt pool cooler with less robust hot throw. Cd16 May have been a better choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, TallTayl said: It is because the cd12 cannot draw up to burn as much wax as the cd14, so the remaining wax just melts more around the flame. Does not make 12 a “better” choice at all. Hot throw is created by the wick being able to fully combust that melted fuel and “throw” it into the air. As the candle with the 12 in this case continues to burn the tendency is for it to keep developing a deeper and deeper melt pool which actually makes the melt pool cooler with less robust hot throw. Cd16 May have been a better choice. Interesting ! Thanks for clarifying. For 8oz glass jars (2.5" - 3" diameter) would I be closer to cd14 or cd16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hard to say. Depends on the fragrance, etc. and depth of the glass. The taller the jar, the likely lower wick size since it gets incredibly hot in the second half. Id be inclined to start with a 14, and work up/down as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karinz40 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 SUMMARY Wax Wick Test C3 - Round 1 Wick MP Diameter Notes 1 CD12 2.75 Small mushrooms 2 CDN12 2.80 Small mushrooms 3 CSN12 2.25 Small mushrooms 4 CD14 2.50 Small mushrooms 5 CDN14 2.75 Small mushrooms 6 WI740 1.75 did not complete 3rd burn. 7 LX14 2.50 barely any mushrooming 8 ECO6 2.60 small mushrooms 9 44-24-18z 2.00 Massive mushrooms 10 #2/0 2.50 small mushrooms late 11 HTP73 2.00 Small mushrooms 12 HEMP1400 2.85 Massive Mushrooms 13 Non-crackle .5" wood wick 2.00 Deep MP, most discolored wax Through experience, I know the CD14 & CDN14 in a tin will reach FMP in a normal amount of time. I predict these wicks will work well in the tins once the air currents are built within the tin. These same wicks may be a size too big in taller glass containers. Tests of tins and glass status jars to come. stay tuned. Saw above in an old post: so you think a CD 14 will work in an 8 oz tin? Not to big? I have been testing the 6 and 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 With Cargill C3 soy wax, in my particular case at the time of these tests, cd14 did well with many fragrances. Every fragrance needed complete testing as some needed wicking down several sizes while others needed to be wicked up. cd14 May or may not work the same in other blends of wax, or C3 wax from a different lot number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Maybe. See how it burns middle before deciding. You can always try other wick series too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MagGenerator1 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Hey TallTayl, From the photos, the widest and deepest melt pools appear to be created from the wicks CDN14 shown on Tray 1 and HEMP1400 shown on Tray 2. Do you agree? I'm looking for a wick that will create a melt pool that will encompass a 2-inch x 2-inch square area. What is the significance of the lighter yellows as opposed to the darker yellows ... Do the lighter yellows represent a deeper melt pool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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