jackbenimble Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I'm having a bit of trouble single wicking this jar. It's an 11oz Libby straight sided tumbler jar with a diameter of 3.125in. Im use 464 wax and a CD16 wick. I was using a CD14 and always had quite a bit of residue on one side of the jar. This is the 3rd burn and I can't seem to get it clean on the sides. Should I keep going and eventually it will catch up or do I need to wick up? Thanks for any help or advice. I've posted pics below. PS- This test has been going since 10:17am and its 12:35pm now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I would keep going until at least down to the middle of the candle. It is very possible it could catch up. If after you get to the middle or a little farther down, it's still not cleaning the sides, and you are burning for 3-4 hours each burn, then I would think about wicking up. Typically when testing wicks, that's what I do, or I burn the entire candle (unless it is just very obvious it's too big or too small) Your candle looks like it will possibly catch up, so I would keep going before starting with a larger wick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Jcandleattic said: I would keep going until at least down to the middle of the candle. It is very possible it could catch up. If after you get to the middle or a little farther down, it's still not cleaning the sides, and you are burning for 3-4 hours each burn, then I would think about wicking up. Typically when testing wicks, that's what I do, or I burn the entire candle (unless it is just very obvious it's too big or too small) Your candle looks like it will possibly catch up, so I would keep going before starting with a larger wick. Thank you! I'll keep testing and see how it goes. I finished my test today and still didn't get a full melt pool. Hoping next test it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I would try power burning that candle and see how it does. 9 out of 10 customers do not burn a candle 3 to 4 hours at a time, unless it's a votive. That is the main reason I power burn my candles 6 to 9 hours, like the majority of my customers do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Is it just perspective, or does the container taper from top to bottom? If it does change diameter that wick may actually end up being a bit too big by the end. Judging just by the tiny bit of hang up at this point if it were not tapering the wick is ok as in another few hours that candle will be creating a lot of convection inside and warming up quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Keep going, my guess is , once it gets to the smaller diameter area of the jar , the jar will heat up more and the sides will melt down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, TallTayl said: Is it just perspective, or does the container taper from top to bottom? If it does change diameter that wick may actually end up being a bit too big by the end. Judging just by the tiny bit of hang up at this point if it were not tapering the wick is ok as in another few hours that candle will be creating a lot of convection inside and warming up quite a bit. No it does not taper. It's a straight sided jar. Thank you for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I agree. With the shape of that jar tapering in at the bottom your best bet is to test burn to the end of the jar. It would actually be typical for some hangup left at the top until the last half of the candle is burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Thanks everyone for the advice. Just to be clear it's a straight sided jar and does not taper but great advice for anyone looking at this thread and using a tapered jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 So I'm still having issues with wicking. Lots of residue on one side of the jar. I went up to a CD18 and have made another tester with a CD20(I'm waiting a week to let it cure before I test. Is there anyone that sells a CD4 so I could double wick if I need too? CD6 is the smallest I've found in a 6in wick and a double wicked CD6 is too large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, jackbenimble said: So I'm still having issues with wicking. Lots of residue on one side of the jar. I went up to a CD18 and have made another tester with a CD20(I'm waiting a week to let it cure before I test. Is there anyone that sells a CD4 so I could double wick if I need too? CD6 is the smallest I've found in a 6in wick and a double wicked CD6 is too large. After quite a few frustrating wicking issues with a handful of fragrances with CD series in soy, I tried ECO wicks in just those. Was pleasantly rewarded with decent burns without having to double-wick, or wick up risking big flames. I eliminated ECO early on because they just seemed to burn too hot in my setup. I have never found a cd4 either... Happy Finding: in my Clove scent soy tin the CD 16 struggled with a weak flam and tunneled badly. I didn't want to move to the 18.... The ECO 10 did the job remarkably well. Great throw and burn. Even got a little hot at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 59 minutes ago, TallTayl said: After quite a few frustrating wicking issues with a handful of fragrances with CD series in soy, I tried ECO wicks in just those. Was pleasantly rewarded with decent burns without having to double-wick, or wick up risking big flames. I eliminated ECO early on because they just seemed to burn too hot in my setup. I have never found a cd4 either... Happy Finding: in my Clove scent soy tin the CD 16 struggled with a weak flam and tunneled badly. I didn't want to move to the 18.... The ECO 10 did the job remarkably well. Great throw and burn. Even got a little hot at the end. Thanks for the info TallTayl! So maybe I will try an ECO wick again. I tried them before as well and ended up going with a double CD wick in my current candle line. I don't know why I never followed through with ECO's. Hoping his will solve my issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I never loved the burn of the ECO either at first. They all got way too hot... Which works in my favor for these hard-to-burn oils Ike spices. Good luck!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candly Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On May 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, jackbenimble said: So I'm still having issues with wicking. Lots of residue on one side of the jar. I went up to a CD18 and have made another tester with a CD20(I'm waiting a week to let it cure before I test. Is there anyone that sells a CD4 so I could double wick if I need too? CD6 is the smallest I've found in a 6in wick and a double wicked CD6 is too large. Bitter Creek sells them in 6". They also sell a sample kit with 5 of each size (in case you also want to try a CD-5) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthomas57 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I have those same tumblers and even the CD16 is a bit too big for me. Flame gets a bit crazy but more than anything the jar gets too hot. For me back and forth between the CD14 and 16 for that jar worked for the CD wicks. Honestly, in my opinion if you are having to go bigger than that, I'd try a different kind of wick. What FO load are you using? and FWIW, I think Tumblers and straight sided libbys are the hardest to work for some reason. They dont have any curve at the top like a other jars do to keep heat in so they tend to have hang up a bit more than other containers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I know I'm late to this discussion, but did you ever figure out your wick? Also, Community Candle has the cd 4's.... Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Trappeur said: I know I'm late to this discussion, but did you ever figure out your wick? Also, Community Candle has the cd 4's.... Trappeur Sort of. I am trying a CD20 on the scent Citron & Mandarin from CS. Despite being a citrus FO it is on the heavy side. I've ran into this issue on citrus FO before. If I can get this FO wicked I can work with the others in this collection. I am also trying double wicks with HTP31 & HTP41. We will see how this all goes. I feel like I'm on the right track now. Thx for all the advice and checking back in friends! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Have you tried the cotton wicks from RE I bet the 62 cotton will work in those size jars.What I don't like about the CD's they lean to one side the cotton doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbenimble Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Barbara AL said: Have you tried the cotton wicks from RE I bet the 62 cotton will work in those size jars.What I don't like about the CD's they lean to one side the cotton doesn't. I have not but will put that on the list. That is true. The CDs always burn one side better than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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