LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 When people talk about chilling a mold, or doing a cold pour, how cold are they talking?Should I put my mold in the freezer or an hour so its frosty?Or just in the fridge for two minutes so its cool to the touch?Will pouring the wax at a cooler temperature help with this at all as well?Maybe pour when it is starting to get cloudy?I know this is simple stuff, but I've looked online for answers and I can't find these specifics.Thanks a lot for any help-Luke- Quote
Scented Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Cold pour is between 145-150 roughly. I don't chill my molds, but you can get pretty cool jumpline designs on it. I've done it a couple of times, but opt for the plain ol' way of just pouring wax cool. If it gets too frozen, be prepared for that mold to pop and possibly jump on you. And you don't want cold frost on the inside of the mold either, because that will leave condensation in the wax. Quote
Fern Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I don't chill my molds either. I just pour real cool into room temperature molds. After I pour my wax into my pour pot I let it sit until the wax just starts to turn cloudy, but hasn't started setting up yet...then pour. Quote
Dustpuuppy Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I've put them in the freezer and poured a little hotter than Scented was speaking of. It gave me an interesting patina look.Like Scented said make sure there's no frost in the mold.Like most things in candle making, there's no one right way. There's about 14 variations of how to do a rustic. You'll have to play around and see which one or which combination gives you the results you want. Quote
lindsaycb Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Even just the temp difference in my basement is chilled enough for me. I don't need to stick them in the freezer. Quote
LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 Way to really jump on this post. I think its been like 15 minutes.this was really useful.If anyone has any special/specific formula's for particual rustic or antiqued finnishes that they have used I would love to hear more.Scented, Fern, Dust, Lindsay, thanks a lot for the clarification.-Luke- Quote
Tallbabydoll Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 There's directions under Techniques and Ideas to get u started. I'm not that experienced at this technique myself to give any pointers. Only dont use a water bath, fridge, etc to cool faster, let it cool on its own. Also don't use mold release, it made the "frosting" stick to the inside of the mold when I did. HTH Quote
Scented Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Basic recipe ... 3 Tablespoons steric pp of wax. Pour darker colors. To me they're much more interesting lol. And let the dang candle decide when it's coming out, because otherwise the frost may stay in the mold. Quote
LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 I thought I looked under techniques and tips, but I probably didn't. Sorry for asking here before I looked for myself thoroughly. Good suggestions though.TallB - thanks for the tip about not using mold release, that is totally something I would have forgotten and also for your comment on the cookie cutter on the pics forum. thanks!-Luke- Quote
SatinDucky Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Personally I do use a water bath, but then sometimes my wax is a bit warmer when I pour and that cools the mold before the warm wax can melt the film that was created inside when pouring. There really is no right or wrong way. Just play around with doing it cooler and see what you like Quote
Tallbabydoll Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Your very welcome. When I tried to make a rustic, it took me many tries to succeed. Thanks to Scented I finally had one turn out. I just reread the instructions from Alan, (who I would trust much further than myself) and his instruction counterdict my advice. So don't listen to me, I just found that when I didn't do these things, it finally turned out. Good Luck! Quote
Dustpuuppy Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I'm guessing that you already know to "pour sloppy" ? Pour the wax in a little faster than you might, normally and not straight down the middle of the mold. Let it splash up on the sides a bit. The ones I did, I turned the mold 1/3 around a couple of times, so I could splash the wax up all around it. Quote
LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 I'll have to try the sloppy pour...I'm not sure how high I will be able to get it to splash up on the sides cause the sides of the mold are like two feet high. Physics of it would be what?....the higher I pour the wax from into the mold, the greater the splash would be right?hmmm I'll have to think about this because since I use an insert....Maybe I can splash and then quickly put in the insert before pouring the rest...logistics logistics.Thanks for the suggestions. I knew joining this forum was a good idea.Seriously, all ya'll are so smart!-Luke- Quote
Dustpuuppy Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I'll have to try the sloppy pour...I'm not sure how high I will be able to get it to splash up on the sides cause the sides of the mold are like two feet high. Physics of it would be what?....the higher I pour the wax from into the mold, the greater the splash would be right? More like pouring it down the sides. Thus, the tall mold might be a plus. Splash might have been the wrong word to use. If you actually just dump the wax in, so that it actually splashes, you run the risk of getting air bubbles in the candle. Especially at low temps.Seriously, all ya'll are so smart!-Luke-Not really. We've just ruined a *LOT* of wax in our travels. Quote
Scented Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Not really. We've just ruined a *LOT* of wax in our travels. Now that's a true statement Actually you can pour a little wax in, slosh it around, wait a few seconds and pour fast. Just don't forget to tap the mold to try to release some of those air bubbles. Quote
Pam W Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Luke,are you going for a rustic whopper cane here? (since you mentioned insert?) Quote
LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 Pam, hey how's it going?Actually, the few canes/hurricanes (everybody keeps saying cane but I'm not sure what the deffenition of a cane is, anyone is welcome to enlighten me here) came out rustic on accident. So I'm doing my homework to see what I was doing so I can keep doing it. I made a couple of hurricanes in some coffee/flour canisters and they came out really smooth and I didn't like it at all. lol.But now that I try to make them rustic on purpose I'll probably screw it up. Often accidents are the best. Quote
Pam W Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 most of my best work was accidents and since I'm usually too stupid to take notes, it's hard to duplicate it. Pour on the cool side for the rustic look.My understanding of a cane is a hollow shell. Quote
LRC06301983 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 okay so then how does a cane differ from a hurricane?Does a cane ONLY have a shell and no bottom? or is it just the sheer size that promotes it to a cane? Quote
Pam W Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Cane is just short for hurricane -- saves on typing. And yes, they have bottoms.(so there's something to hold the votive or whatever you decide to lite it with) If you make the 'canes w/inserts, you will probably have to pour the bottom after the shell has been poured.(and cooled) If you pour it the other way where you pour full of wax and then pour out the center/unmelted wax after the shell has formed, you'll automatically have the bottom. Quote
SatinDucky Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 okay so then how does a cane differ from a hurricane?It doesn't. It's what's known as lazy typing...LOL Quote
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