tucker Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I know it's been discussed before but I can't find it. I made a pic candle with hurricane wax (a pillar with pic glued on) it's now starting to fingernail. Altho it looks kinda purty, WHY ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I was told it was because of water in the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowlite Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I was told it was because of water in the wax.It may be this or a heating issue. I've ruled out fo because I get it every once in a while in my unscented candles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Did a search:http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4295&highlight=fingernailing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Not water but air/gas, or that's what I remember anyway. They say to heat the wax to 220 or so for 20 to 30 mins to make it evaporate. I've tried every trick posted on this board and I still get it. At least it's not in every single candle like it was this summer. Same wax, different wax, same methods, different methods, sometimes it's there, sometimes not. I have yet to find any rhyme or reason to it nor any "cure" :undecided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Fingernailing is fractures in the wax. Noticing it is caused with trapped air or gas in a mold and perhaps cooling too fast or unevenly. After dissecting a few of them, they're just air pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hey Ducky, I agree 100%. The black candle I showed last week with the spiffy lady on it was wickless HURRICANE wax (unscented) It was fine for a few days and today it started to show fnails. I've also had the odd pillar showing slightly. Personally I think it's pretty spiffy (but definitely not rite) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikatx Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i don't know why, bud I get SEVERE fingernaling in the summer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i don't know why, bud I get SEVERE fingernaling in the summer...Humidity can play a role. I've gotten it in the winter, when it got all cold and rainy around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I was told it was because of water in the wax.Maybe *moisture*. Water in your wax causes a more immediate problem. I think it was Liz who blew the top off her Presto pot and spewed wax all over the kitchen, due to a couple of drops of water that got into the wax due to condensation.The technical cause is as Scented said. But I've noticed that it tends to get worse during wet weather, for me. I've never been able to nail down just how or why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 HaHaHa.. I make them on purpose after putting 2 fingernailed candles on the floor and got many many many requests for them! They burn just as well as the rustics or chunks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 HaHaHa.. I make them on purpose after putting 2 fingernailed candles on the floor and got many many many requests for them! They burn just as well as the rustics or chunks.... Ok, give! HOW do you make them on purpose?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Now that I think about it... I always get finger nailing with strawberry FO. There was another one too. They were about the only solid colored candles I was doing, so I let it go. I made a couple of half hearted attempts to fix it, but I kinda liked it. I was out of ideas to avoid a solid red candle anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fern Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Did everyone miss Sara's post? She found the thread that discussed the fingernailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Did everyone miss Sara's post? She found the thread that discussed the fingernailing.Nah, we saw it, but the board is slow and we have no lives, so we're gonna ignore it and re hash the whole thing yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ok, give! HOW do you make them on purpose??1343, 1 tablespoon UA pp. For my straight up glossies, I add 2 tablespoons pp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerriWV Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Now that I think about it... I always get finger nailing with strawberry FO. There was another one too. They were about the only solid colored candles I was doing, so I let it go. I made a couple of half hearted attempts to fix it, but I kinda liked it. I was out of ideas to avoid a solid red candle anyway...I get it alot when I use Lavender FO. But I have cut into one, and it is air pockets. Sometimes they are large here and there, other times, they have been real tiny all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 For the record Dust, it was Lin and not Liz who had the presto incident lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustpuuppy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 For the record Dust, it was Lin and not Liz who had the presto incident lol!Oops. Couldn't remember for certain. I *do* remember the pics she posted, though.Scary stuff. You'd have sworn Tanya had been in that kitchen trying to cook, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Oh poor T! Yeah, those were quite the pictures and oh the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garf Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have only one severly fingernailed pillar and am in the process of burning it now. DEFINATELY NOT water. Mine happened using 3 types of wax togther, 1343, slake wax, and pieces of an old junk pillar from a thrift store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ya know in all honesty, I got fingernailing all the time using 1343 and UA, any amount of UA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ya know in all honesty, I got fingernailing all the time using 1343 and UA, any amount of UA.I used that combo just recently with no sign of fingernailing.Nobody really seems to understand this phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharyl55 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ever wonder why fingernailing only occurs with paraffin pillar waxes? No one ever mentions fingernailing with container or soy waxes. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlelady4ever Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hey Tucker, Maybe this will help?From Peaks:Universal Additive: Inhibits mottling. Increases wax hardness. Prevents bubbles. Increases opacity to some degree, but not nearly as much as Vybar. Also minimizes the occurance of surface pits in molded candles. Improves surface gloss. Increases fragrance oil capacity of wax. Can be used with waxes of any melting point.General usage is 1 TBS per pound of wax (2% by weight). One pound of UA will treat approximately 50 pounds of wax.MP: 184 deg F. Wax must be heated to above 184 to add this additive directly to the wax. If not, melt separately, then add to wax. It seems if I dont use the correct amount of this ,I have the fingernailing issue. Be sure your measure amount are exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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