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I would either cut the recipe in half or use a bigger crock pot. The hot soap expands quite a bit, even without getting to the volcano state. You will want room to stir it down without splashing is over. you could also make it In a microwave. It’s a little quicker an you can use other pitchers if things get expanded too much for your comfort.

Fresh Cut Stems from set 2 is a lovely blend of green out of the bottle. It smells like you’ve taken a set of garden pruners and cut the flowers before arranging in a vase. Soap Notes: easy as can be to make. Took my time and poured leisurely. standard 40% lye solution, room temp, 100 ish degree oils. oils: palm, coconut, olive, Shea, cocoa butter, castor oil. % used: 5. May be able to use less for a fully scented cold process soap. Morphing: none fade: slightly less potent than I would prefer, but coming back during cure. Will monitor for it over the coming weeks. Acceleration: None Discoloration: ivory Candle Test #1: common 9 oz straight sided amber glass jar, inside diameter approx 2.5” give or take. Wax blend: coco83:sp487 70:30. FO%: 8%. The sales rep recommends using 6% to start testing. I jumped to 8 out of habit. wick: CDN6 The flame is steady and pretty, Cold Throw: 10 out of 10. Just like out of bottle Hot Throw: 8 out of 10 with this wick. I get a clear scent of roses on top of the green. It is strong, though. Filled my living room easily. Product Thoughts: I can imagine this in a florist line. Will need to test in combination with other florals to see if the rose tones down, leaving the green notes as a base for the floral scent. It’s beautiful, like a bouquet. IFRA Info: cat 1: not permitted cat 2:1.62% Cat 3: 2.07 cat 4: 7 Cat 5a: 7 Cat 5b: 4.05 Cat 5c: 5.32 Cat 5d: 1.35 Cat 6: not permitted Cat 7a: 4.05 Cat 7b: 4.05 Cat 8: 1.35 Cat 9: 16.10 Cat 10a: 16.10 Cat 10b: 7 Cat 11a: 1.35 Cat 11b: 1.35 Cat 12: no restriction

Test ting results for Clementine coriander: there’s a lot of interest in this one from long time co-op participants. We will easily hit the 25 lb mark. Once I get through the last bit of coco wax candle testing I’ll put it into soy wax just to close the loop on testing. i expect to order this one as early as next week. pinion wood may also go on that order to hit their happy new minimums. 🤞🏻

IFRA Category Product Type IFRA Category 1 Products applied to the lips: Lip products e.g. lipstick, lip balm; Children's toys IFRA Category 2 Products applied to the axillae: Deodorant and antiperspirant products of all types; Body sprays/mists IFRA Category 3 Products applied to the face/body using fingertips: Eye products e.g. eye make-up, eye moisturizer; Facial make-up; Make-up remover; Nose pore strips; Wipes for face, neck, hands, body; Facial masks; Body and face paint IFRA Category 4 Products related to fine fragrance: Hydroalcoholic and non-hydroalcoholic fine fragrance of all types e.g. Eau de Toilette, Parfum, Cologne, solid perfume, fragrancing cream, aftershaves of all types; Ingredients of perfume and fragrance mixtures for cosmetic kits; Scent pads; Scent strips IFRA Category 5A Body lotion products applied to the body using the hands (palms), primarily leave on: Foot care products e.g. creams, powders; Insect repellent for application to the skin; All powders and talc (excluding baby powders and talc) IFRA Category 5B Face moisturizer products applied to the face using the hands (palms), primarily leave on: Facial toner; Facial moisturizers and creams IFRA Category 5C Hand cream products applied to the hands using the hands (palms), primarily leave on: Hand cream; Nail care products including cuticle creams; Hand sanitizers IFRA Category 5D Baby creams, baby oils and baby talc: Baby cream/lotion, baby oil, baby powders and talc IFRA Category 6 Products with oral and lip exposure: Toothpaste; Mouthwash, including breath sprays; Toothpowder, strips, mouthwash tablets IFRA Category 7A Rinse-off products applied to the hair with some hand contact: Hair permanent or other hair chemical treatments (rinse-off) e.g. relaxers, including rinse-off hair dyes IFRA Category 7B Leave-on products applied to the hair with some hand contact: Hair sprays of all types e.g. pumps, aerosol sprays; Hair styling aids non sprays e.g. mousse, leave- on conditioners; Hair permanent or other hair chemical treatments (leave-on) e.g. relaxers, including leave-on hair dyes; Shampoo - Dry (waterless shampoo); Hair deodorizer IFRA Category 8 Products with significant anogenital exposure: Intimate wipes; Tampons; Baby wipes; Toilet paper (wet) IFRA Category 9 Products with body and hand exposure, primarily rinse off: Bar soap; Liquid soap; Shampoo of all type; Conditioner (rinse-off); Body washes and shower gels of all types; Baby wash, bath, shampoo; Bath gels, foams, mousses, salts, oils and other products added to bathwater; Cleanser for face (rinse-off); Shaving creams of all types e.g. stick, gels, foams; All depilatories (including facial) and waxes for mechanical hair removal; Foot care products (feet are placed in a bath for soaking); Shampoos for pets IFRA Category 10A Household care excluding aerosol / spray products: Hand wash laundry detergent; Laundry pre-treatment of all types e.g. paste, sprays, sticks; Machine laundry detergents with skin contact e.g. liquids, powders; Fabric softeners of all types including fabric softener sheets; Ironing water; Hand dishwashing detergent; Hard surface cleaners of all types e.g. bathroom, kitchen cleansers, furniture polish; Toilet seat wipes; Household cleaning products, other types including fabric cleaners, carpet cleaners, furniture polishes sprays and wipes, stain removers, treatment products for textiles e.g. starch sprays; Floor wax; Dry cleaning kits; Fragranced oil for lamp ring, reed diffusers, pot-pourri, liquid refills for air fresheners (non cartridge systems), etc. IFRA Category 10B Household aerosol/spray products: Animal sprays applied to animals; Air freshener sprays, manual, including aerosol and pump; Aerosol/spray insecticides IFRA Category 11A Products with intended skin contact but minimal transfer of fragrance to skin from inert substrate without UV exposure: Feminine hygiene conventional pads, liners, interlabial pads; Diapers (baby and adult); Adult incontinence pant, pad; Toilet paper (dry) IFRA Category 11B Products with intended skin contact but minimal transfer of fragrance to skin from inert substrate with potential UV exposure: Tights with moisturizers; Scented socks, gloves; Facial tissues (dry tissues); Napkins; Paper towels; Wheat bags; Facial masks (paper/protective) e.g. surgical masks not used as medical device; Fertilizers, solid (pellet or powder) IFRA Category 12 Products not intended for direct skin contact, minimal or insignificant transfer to skin: Candles of all types ; Laundry detergents for machine wash with minimal skin contact (e.g. Liquid tabs, pods); Automated air fresheners and fragrancing of all types e.g. concentrated aerosol with metered doses, plug-ins, electrical, incense, liquid refills (cartridge); Air delivery systems; Cat litter; Cell phone cases; Deodorizers/maskers not intended for skin contact e.g. fabric drying machine deodorizers, carpet powders; Fuels; Insecticides e.g. mosquito coil, paper, electrical, for clothing, excluding aerosols/sprays; Joss sticks or incense sticks; Dishwash detergent and deodorizers - for machine wash; Olfactive board games; Paints; Plastic articles (excluding toys); Scratch and sniff; Scent pack; Scent delivery system (using dry air technology); Shoe polishes; Rim blocks (Toilet)

Clementine Coriander from set 2 is the star of the summer show. The bright citrus is sunshine itself. It’s a fresh take on sweet-tart citrus juice with the slight green note of coriander. Soap Notes: easy as can be to make. Took my time and poured leisurely. standard 40% lye solution, room temp, 100 ish degree oils. oils: palm, coconut, olive, Shea, cocoa butter, castor oil. % used: 5. May be able to use less for a fully scented cold process soap. Morphing: none fade: none yet. Will monitor for it over the coming weeks. Acceleration: None Discoloration: ivory Candle Test #1: common 9 oz straight sided amber glass jar, inside diameter approx 2.5” give or take. Wax blend: coco83:sp487 70:30. FO%: 8%. The sales rep recommends using 6% to start testing. I jumped to 8 out of habit. wick: CD 5. Will wick up. The flame is steady and pretty, but rather small for this candle. A bit more hang that is needed for safety. Will try CDN 6 on next burn. Cold Throw: 10 out of 10. Just like out of bottle Hot Throw: 8 out of 10 with this wick. With just a little more wick energy this will be a 10 out of 10. Product Thoughts: I can imagine this in everything from bath and body (bar and liquid soap, shampoo/conditioner, lotion, body spray, dusting powder) to home (kitchen soap, air freshener, dish soap, laundry soap, etc). Will smell cheery in car freshies too. IFRA Info: cat 1: not permitted cat 2:1.37% Cat 3: 1.32 cat 4: 15.55 Cat 5a: 6.42 Cat 5b: 0.68 Cat 5c: 2.69 Cat 5d: 0.22 Cat 6: not permitted Cat 7a: 1.32 Cat 7b: .32 Cat 8: 0.22 Cat 9: 6.15 Cat 10a: 6.15 Cat 10b: 30.30 Cat 11a: 0.22 Cat 11b: 0.22 Cat 12: no restriction

Oh no. Feel better. 🙂

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that's a great bonus right there! I'm all about easy as we age.

you picked up some notes I didn't. thanks for the detailed descriptions. I can't wait to hear the rest! Your words give me ideas about marketing the finished products in story form. I love experiences translated to fragrance. I'm beginning to see a hint of a trend in what people have preferred so far.

If enough people like the BRV my list can change at a moments notice 😊

That’s a great list! just wait til the summer romance collection arrives to your Mailbox. Talk about DIFFERENT! Thanks for rounding up a focus group for us! The selections everyone writes about are very helpful when narrowing down what to bring in first. Drop a blotter on your warmer to coax out some of the deeper notes and nuances. The foil packets can be taped closed, or enclosed in aluminum foil to preserve a while longer. and also treat them as perfume strips, allowing to air out and sniff again. They all smell slightly different when not direct out of the bottle. I’m going through IFRA and testing the best contenders to just plain have a small enough set to complete. In all I’ve received more than 50 samples. Working through all of them would be impossible to get any in before the holidays. Strawberry Vine is on my short list. It is familiar, yet just different enough to be intriguing for online customers without being too scary “out there”. Fingers and toes crossed it performs well in both candles and soap. It is B&B safe in many of the most common categories. Tangerine Ginger is on the short list also. Though I think it will be really amazing with an effervescent blender, which is on the way. I like when the bubbles hit the nose. It’s that “oooooh that’s fun” but that takes people by surprise in a good way. rainbow moss is B&B safe too, I’m not sure exactly how I feel about it, but…. It’s worth a try for novelty. Black raspberry Vanilla: while I love it, I wonder if we should go for less commonly available, equally excellent fragrances for the first go-round. What does everyone think? If we aim for 3-4 the first month, that opens 3-4 the second month, and so on. If planned well, all of the labs who kindly sent candidates will get a bit of an order reward so we can keep this fragrance search going. It would be wonderful, to me, to have a fragrance collection of the month club. I’m grateful to have a group of people willing to take a chance on this dream. Members who have participated in this first trial with me will be given “Gold” member status for helping get this endeavor off the ground. Gold status will include premium pricing discounts on our fragrances and all of the Gold sponsorship perks of this forum (longer editing time, bigger mailbox and No Ads!)

Thanks for sharing the links. Kinda thinking out loud about the different options. Hopefully brambleberry replies with the material so we can at least know where to start testing.

For this I think we will need to do a lot of testing. impak replied with these two: Below are the options for our PAKVF6NISL material: 16oz : https://www.impakcorporation.com/FTSSP500CSISL32oz: https://www.impakcorporation.com/FTSSP1000CSISLBelow are the options for our PAKPNBW material:32oz: https://www.impakcorporation.com/SP1LBW77oz: https://www.impakcorporation.com/SP2KGBW @BenderSF I wish those descriptions were more detailed. Some are thin walled, and not all of the bag materials I just learned are suitable for fragrance. if given the choice, I think I want the kind to fill through the spout and not worry about heat sealing. What do you think?

If you order 5 lbs of fragrance the oil comes in these bags instead of bottles. Was a bit unnerving to see what appeared to be a urine bag in a shipping carton, but they worked well and saved a lot of $$ on shipping. Their soap oils sometimes come in them too, like when they offered preblends. You can boil or microwave the bags, pretty brilliant. They used to sell them in 2 sizes but discontinued a while ago.

Anyone know the material type of the spout bag Brambleberry uses for 5 lb fragrance purchases? I’ve asked customer service but have not heard back. Those bags are so handy for shipping and storage.

I can see us getting the whole set over time. Maybe hit the most seasonal first, along with the farmers market hits? Get to pinion in time for winter holidays? I hesitate to mention I got ANOTHER 10 or so the other day unannounced… I’m tired thinking of the testing… 😀 AND the ifras on the summer romance set are in. Most are body safe to normal usage rates. Many will only need maybe 2-3% in cp. I’ll test at the low end first. The rep recommends testing her fragrances at 2% in soap and 6% in candles.

Members of the forum can request a set of sniffies through a pm to me with your name and address. A few sets are available for sale on the main brand’s web store: https://scentersquare.com/summer-romance-sniffie-set/

I called the rep this morning as a follow up about the set with a whole list of questions. The fragrances are made in two versions, one specifically for candles (which she sent) and one for b&b specifically. Before putting them into wax I wanted to be sure these were the candle version. I can count how many times I’ve put a fragrance from a perfumer into wax to discover it would not burn because it used DPG or similar as the diluent. 😣 since these are the candle set, I’m going to put them all into some coco83:sp487. She suggests 6-8% as their typical range. I typically use 8% but wonder if the strength of these will be so strong we will taste it in the air. It’s a gross sensation when that happens. I requested IFRA and pricing for all last week and they are on the way. While speaking with her, the perfumer indicated the set we have could be used in soap, but I’ll wait for the IFRA before testing further since the limits may be too low to consider. They’re usually pretty quick with technical documents. do smell mesmerize later when your nose recovers. It is a unique take on vanilla, which if you smelled it last, might seem to subtle after the other powerhouses. funny you mentioned the dusted sheets, I am die hard No powder. This isn’t that baby powder, though, so I really ended up liking it. This old dog can learn to like new things.

Sherlock Holmes is on the case. In the meantime, I promised you all the Rocky I have left, so that gives us a little time to find our own Rocky.

That’s deep.

I can imagine a set of fragrances to honor Vicky, Trappeur, Dave, Old Glory, Eucalypta and others not coming to mind easily right now.

yours should be at your doorstep today. Interested to hear (read) what you think!

There’s an emotional component to this too. When asked, “where’d you get that?” Saying something cute and quirky is fun… oooh I got it at Lush. Found this at Etsy. Amazon. Brambleberry. CraftServer isn’t fun to say. we are also artists with scent, Scented Arts is taken, along with many variations, but we can morph something. the origin of my Scenter square name was that I live near the historic Woodstock square. Our claim to fame is the movie Groundhogs Day was filmed here. ? woodstock Fragrance Works. my logos usually have a spiral, which captures the symbolic journey we all make learning something new. the forum has, for the most part, become an archive paying homage to ghosts of chandlers past. We are actually foreword thinking, ambitious people who aim to make the best products we can. some communities I belong to that inspire thoughts for us: The Gardeners Workshop. https://thegardenersworkshop.com Lisa has a teaching model connected to a web store. She is active in person, on YouTube, and in print. I find myself leaning toward this model as a personable, relatable an non intimidating resource. I’m not as inclined for the push of all of those paid courses, but I’m not opposed to revenue generating pieces. Ceramic Arts Network. https://ceramicartsnetwork.org This is a learning heavy resource, with annual conferences. The forum part is legacy, like ours. https://community.ceramicartsdaily.org the Freebies section is neat. https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/freebies Basenotes. https://basenotes.com/forums/ this one is old, and cold, but is closest to what we are right now. Their software looks just like ours. They carry legacy info that is indispensable to the fragrance artists like us, and have cultivated a group of masterminds guide the newbies as we have.

Sometimes I like to drop a bunch of nonsense words to start a brainstorm. No judgement on anything written, just words. Kind of like doodling. Scribbling randomly evolved into logos and petroglyphs. It feels like we are inside the chrysalis, still a puddle of goo waiting to rearrange into something beautiful.