well hello all! haven't been around for quite some time, but do want to get in gear for the fall and saw this topic!! i love Lush Karma and have their soap even as we speak. i have only tried NG's and FB's versions, and not in wax, but in body sprays, solid perfume, & M&P soap. Scented, you are absolutely right about NG's version-way, way too light!! even in body/linen spray, next to nothing. FB's was great in solid perfume and the M&P. my M&P smells almost exactly like the real Lush Karma!!! and it is reasonably priced. i will say that i put 5-6 drops of patch EO into the soap mix, and as mentioned, did not use it in any wax application, but it is really (to me) a great version!! the soap also is still smelling strong after about 5 months. hth-kris