autumndaze

I have used Joy wax from the very beginning. And those that have said "it changed" are ,in my opinion, correct. It has changed somewhat. And yes Ive had a couple (only maybe 2 or 3) slabs over a period of 6+ years that caused me problems. Overall this wax is wonderful .The scent throw is awesome. I have also tried to make tarts with straight Joy wax, and found them too soft. Definitely. But they scent like crazy, lol. So all of the tarts I made with it, are just for my own use. I can tolerate the messiness and less than beautiful appearance. I would also recommend mixing the Joy with another, firmer, wax for tarts.

Well I agree with you, "whats the big deal?" But I don't know of any suppliers that share who their fragrance manufacturers are. They tell who manufactures the waxes.... but other things they dont tell. Sort of a "trade secret" kind of thing I guess. As for having to add 1.5 oz. pp of soy wax ...well to me that seems reasonable. I think soy wax is harder to scent than paraffin. I think. I use a parasoy blend. I think if you order some of the fo's youll probably find a few that are "heavier" and you may be able to use 1oz. pp. But what she said was probably what she was told works best for soy. after reading the above response I realized maybe you meant their wax manufacturer..eeesh I feel like a rock.. But I second what she said.

I have been using this wax since NG first started selling it. It was AMAZING at first. And yes it has gotten alot of bad reviews in more recent times. I for one have never ever (until just this month) had one problem with joywax. This most recent batch I received has got some water in it. From what Im reading on this forum, that is no big deal. And I am finding I can still work with it. The cold throw....I really dont know if I could even rate it. I never leave a candle sitting out somewhere and expect it to scent a room without burning. They smell great when you take the lid off....yeah? lol. The hot throw is awesome. And I only use 1oz/pp fo. Every fragrance Ive tried, from several suppliers has had the same great results. My customers love my candles, and I have had people faithfully buying from me for years. So if the cold throw bothers them, it must not be much. Ive tried using different wicks..and to me, thats the key. To get great scent throw I only use zinc cored wicks. This is just my experience.

I order from WSP all the time because theyre so close to my location. Have always had very good/great results with their products. Ive not tried any of the simple soy wicks, but I did order a small sample pkg of them though just to try. And I am going to do my first test burn in the next couple of days. Only thing is...I use a parasoy blend not straight soy. So my results may have no importance to you.

Well thanks for the quick reply. And the advice. I do still have some concerns though. There is no visible water ON the wax...it looks just like it always has. And it doesnt feel wet in any way. The only way I knew the water was in there is because I could see bubbles when I get to the bottom of a pour. Then after the candle sets up there are tiny bubbles on the bottom of the jars. And of course when you burn them they snap crackle pop. It doesnt seem to be affecting the burn time, scent throw or anything important. But I was worried it may be dangerous. So when you say "air dry" are you meaning that I should just set the slabs out, say on brown paper bags, for a few days? I think I have had a batch or 2 in my history that had water in it before, but never so much as to make it this noticeable. So I guess I have been lucky there.

Wow. And all this time I thought I was making a "greener" candle by using a parasoy blend. When I first started, I made paraffin candles. They were great. Everyone loved them. After about a year and all the hype I decided to be in the "in" crowd and do soy. After several trial runs with straight soy (and failing miserably) I decided a parasoy blend may be the best I could do. Just couldnt get that straight soy to throw a scent hot or cold no matter what wick I used....but thats water under the bridge. If I had known then what Im reading today I probably would never have even bothered trying to work with soy. I know the cost of my wax has dramatically increased. And I dont even think my customers care whats in them as long as they put out a good smell from start to finish. So maybe its time for me to switch back...Trouble is, that was so long ago I dont remember where I used to get my paraffin wax from. lol But since Im rambling I should proabably get to the point. I just want to say thanks for all the info here. Its been a real eye opener for me.

Hello fellow candle makers. I just found this forum today and I have been browsing for hours now. So much info and advice. Wow. I wish I had had something like this when I first started out. I'm new to the forum, but not new to candle making. Ive been making for about 7 years now. Anyway my dilemma is this.... I recently received a batch of wax that I've determined has some water in it. I know...I am so upset that these suppliers can ship this crap out to us, and not even worry about the quality because they all state "no returns or refunds"...Nice. So now I am stuck with this wax. I emailed the supplier to see if they have any suggestions on how I can still use this defunct wax. I have still (after 2 days) not received any response. So I guess they don't feel like even trying to pretend remorse. Has anyone out there got any suggestions? I can't afford to just scrap all this wax. And what if I get more of it in the future? I would love to know if there is something that can be done to make this wax usable. Thanks in advance for any advice.