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I was wondering that myself. After talking to AAK though, I wonder if their waxes are custom formulated and have strict parameters.

I've been using 415 for over 10 years, it's what I started with and I just stuck with it. So far, with my 2017 pallet, I am wicking down 1 size across the board and getting a nice burn and a decent hot throw. Mine get only a 24 hr cure, so I feel that my testers get stronger as they age. Before I ordered my wax this year, I did talk to a couple of people at AAK, one of them at length. He described the processing to me and they do have what they call a 'wax lab' and I believe they have 2 people that make and test candles there, so, I feel like they are not dismissing us. Also, I believe I read somewhere that the soy wax was changed because of the FDA's regulations on some fats? Not sure when that would have been.

Almost finished with my 2nd and 3rd burn- so far, so good. Scent is good, wicking is good, but I like to wick for the bottom 1/3 of the jar, so time will tell..... as I sit on an order for 850. They will have to wait.

Has anyone tried Fillmore's Pure Seduction Type in soy? Or, a suggestion of a good one?

I'll definitely be on the lookout for any strange behavior. We have at least 4 more days of extreme heat before I can really dive into testing these. It's cooling off nicely at night tho, so it's possible I can get one good burn in the morning.

I've been using CDs since the beginning.

Just a quick little report: My pallet of 415(same date as the sample I was sent - 8/17/17) arrived and I got a couple of testers made right away. I am 1 hr in to the first burn- so far, so good. I did wick down 1 size just for the heck of it (and from my other one that was burning a little hot at the half-way point). The scent throw is good, and I am hopeful.

I buy quite a lot of my jars from FC, at least a pallet or 2 each year for many years. So far, I have not had any real problems, just minor breakage, but I believe that got billed back to the shipper anyway? I would totally flip out if any of my jars came without boxes.

I have not changed my wicking so far. I am testing an unscented and also burning one from my current wax -the sample one is actually burning a little cooler, but the wicking still stands. And, I am also testing 2 sizes of my most popular scent(CS Apple Harvest) and the throw was just as fantastic as always. It is burning fine so far, as long as I keep the wick trimmed. I had planned to test the sample wax more, but it's been so darn warm here for September. The new wax will be here this week, and I will be happy to report back on that, as well.

After speaking with AAK and learning how the wax is processed, I finally ordered my pallet of 415. AAK did send me some wax to try, and I have started testing it, and so far(knock wood), see no significant differences. Hopefully, my pallet will be the same.

I'm not really sure about the Toasted Almond & Cherry, but I would guess it's more like Jergens. The Almond Pastry is really good too, more of a food scent. I have not tried the reformulated Cactus & Sea Salt yet, so I'm interested to see how it compares. It's a good summer scent that moves well for me. I never tried the others you mentioned, except for Cranberry Orange Spice, it's a good seller around the holidays. I love talking fragrances, I probably run 100 at any given time.

I love, love, love ICS and use quite a few of her oils(prob 20+) in 415. Love the Choc Fudge Cake and Wildberry Mousse, but haven't tried the others you mentioned. Some I could not live without: Aloha Pineapple Cactus & Sea Salt Coffee Bean MacIntosh Apple Pomegranate Toasted Almond & Cherry White Cake A couple of these were Snowtop's, does anyone remember them?

I'm still playing phone tag about the 415. I believe I went to Kelly after Carmen, but was passed(I believe Kelly was on vacation) to someone else who was unaware of any issues except for condensation. This person did say something to the effect that there would be no changes in the wax performance due to any different chemicals/pesticides used on the crops, as those would be resolved in the processing plant. I am now making contact with the guy at the 'wax lab'. Anyone else with issues specific to 415?

Thanks so much, Squeaky Wheel Goldie, I really appreciate it!! I should have more time to pursue this next, I'll let you know how it goes.

Has anyone actually made contact with Carmen? I called earlier this week and left a voice mail- no return call. Called again this morning and I was forwarded to a different number and left another voice mail.

Thank you Goldie, for the info. I don't mind at all that you used my quote. Since then, I have not had a lot of confidence in having a remedy should I have an issue with my wax. And, with buying by the pallet, that is a big investment. I do feel a little better with the new contact info. I am very interested to see how this plays out, I am both eager and afraid to order my wax now... really, can I return/exchange a whole pallet?

I found this thread interesting as I am just about to order a pallet of 415. I have had vary little variation with this wax, except for one batch many years ago, before I was buying full pallets. I contacted someone at GB and was told pretty much I didn't know what I was talking about. One of the things I was told was that it was formulated for a specific melt point and it should always behave as so. If the new wax behaves badly, I don't know what I will do.

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I can pour 200 8oz jars in one day with 1 presto pot. My biggest issue is getting my husband to bring me a sandwich without having to stop and ask him for it.

I don't know how 415 compares, but I mostly use CD3.

Someone asked me once, 'do the candles taste as good as they smell?' Duh, try one.

I just bought some of these myself. I am using 415 & have tried 2 of the CD12 which were adequate, now trying the CD14 just for fun. I place the wicks so they curl towards the ends. I think I am going back tomorrow to buy the rest, the're just darling!

I have some pushing 2 years old & they're fine. LU

I have made a ton of these. I theme them for July 4th in red, white & blue layers and for Christmas in a few choice fragrances. I use 5 small wicks. They hold 12oz. I do the Libbey heart also, for Valentines & Mothers day. LU