ok, I'm getting a bit confused?? If we are going to help one another and try to figure out what's good, what's not, what supplier is "lying" and who is not, and so on, I need EVERYONE to be more specific. I definitely have all of your attention and you're all letting out some steam, but... is it truly helping with our final product?? One person said they use 50/50 wax (WHAT BRAND??), another person said that their supplier "talks/communicates" with them (WHO'S THAT SUPPLIER??), So many people are complaining about their scent companies & wax companies but are not listing who they are using. If we are going to avoid making more mistakes and learn from each other, YOU NEED TO LIST WHO AND WHAT YOU USE so it can start helping everyone. In my last email I had asked "vertically challenged" WHAT scent company they were using because they were happy with the communication and honesty. On another note, I spoke to French Color this morning and the two big guys that I've been working with told me that if a formula has changed I would know because it would have a different order number on it. They are working with Wicks Unlimited for me to see what wicks could be better for my jars with their scent (I use Wick it right now). French Color told me that I have been lucky for the past 9 years that I've always used the same size wick for every scent because MOST scents require different size wicks depending on the weight of the scent (*which does make sense, but I still think all of this is suspicious). My pillars have a dim wick as well as my jars for autumn spice! I'm waiting to hear back from IGI. I told them I needed to know if they have changed their formula on the 6006. I need to order a new batch and at $85 per case I won't accept it at delivery if it appears different. As mad and frustrated as I am about my candles not staying lit, I can't say I'm going to switch suppliers just yet. They have always worked with me (and I'm also pretty persistent). If I don't get better results soon then I will consider other options. I have randomly used another scent company called Belle Aire. Have any of you used them?? I like their EO and FO as well (I haven't used them recently, don't know if they've changed as well). I stopped using them because they have the worst customer service I have ever seen (or at least their sales reps for Wisconsin are terrible, one worse than the other). To answers some of your questions on my hot apple pie, yes, it is a fragrance oil. I am updating my entire website and have to change/add to the description of my fragrances. One thing that I am starting to notice is... My hot apple pie and cafe mocha are burning awesome, BUT my bonsai citrus ginger, lilac, pumpkin ginger, & autumn spice are low flame. In my case, it looks as though the fragrance oils are burning better than the essential oils (but cafe mocha is part EO). So, please, if you're going to respond, please be specific, let's help one another and make a difference in our candles. Let's support the honest companies and let's figure out what's working and what's not.