Sorry forgot to mention the wax. I'm using parafin wax. Was busy reading other posts on the subject (should have done b4 i posted:embarasse ), and i'm going to try and do a rustic layered pillar. Thanks for the info, thats what I've gathered from old posts, so i'll give it a go. Pour a layer, swirl it about, wait until it has a hard layer, then do another layer, all at 150f. Thanks again for the advice. This forum is a minefield of advice. I've lots of ideas I want to try, but i'll work at them one at a time. I'm still testing my first container candles, they're just small 4oz jars, so in between testing them I'll work on the candle for my neice.