Here is a cut & paste of the INCI for WSP's honey M & P base: INCI Ingredients: Propylene Glycol, Sorbitol, Glycerin, Honey, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Stearate, Sodium Myristate, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Triethanolamine, Water. Compare it to the ingredients of the honey base you can get at Brambleberry: Coconut Oil Palm Oil Castor Oil Safflower Oil Glycerin (kosher, of vegetable origin) Purified Water Sodium Hydroxide (saponifying agent) Sorbitol (moisturizer) Sorbitan oleate (emulsifier) Soy bean protein (conditioner) Honey EDTA (water softener)Where are the moisturizing, nourishing oils in the one from WSP? This might be why the WSP M & P bases are so drying. Jill~