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Just read that Rustic Essentials has been sold to WSP - nothing is supposed to change but as we all know from other suppliers being sold over the years some things can and will change!

There are just so many variables - every situation is different in regards to what each of us uses - the wax or wax/blend, wicking, jar size and shape, environmental issue, etc etc etc - that is why what works for me might not work for you

That being said, I was told by someone many years ago that if any FO was not strong enough for me at 6% then just forget it and move on to one of the other FOs that are out there - and there are a million others that are out there! - plus there is the economics of it - that $15 bottle used at 6% is a $30 bottle at 12% - I think you find some knock-your-socks-off higher end FOs might actually be cheaper because you use less

Sorry I disappeared from this thread right after posting - life got in the way and I was offline for a while

Seems the consensus is to average but like everything else in life it must ultimately be determined by the individual situation

Thanks everyone for your input

Specifically, how do you set your price to account for FO when different FOs can be priced so differently? I can't see setting different prices for different scents but they can run from $15.00 a lb. to $30.00 and up (way up!) - Do you figure your price point at the highest price and just reap the benefit of any lower priced FO? I can't see averaging them all because with my luck the highest priced FO would be by far the biggest seller and that would not work out for long 

For those who sell, what is the maximum price you are willing to pay for your FO with shipping?

In keeping your costs in line there has to be a bottom line to all cost and FO is so all over the board there has to be a point where an FO is just so costly that it just isn't feasible to carry it in your line - Do you have a price point for FO that you just will not go over?

We are consumed with our Craft -  we are proud of what we do and feel we must put out the very best we can - the companies on the other hand are driven by "the bottom line" and making a buck - all it takes is the properly worded warning sticker and the team of corporate lawyers and it's no problem right?

Today through Friday, Candle Science has all 1oz fragrance oils on sale for $0.99 ea - limit of one sample bottle per fragrance while supplies last

Of course he meant like when Mama washes your mouth out with soap for swearing - shame on you for thinking anything else!

Thank you 

I have an idea for a novelty candle that I would have to make my own molds for but might be popular enough in this area to be worth it - it would not be a pillar but rather would be narrower and wide - most people would never burn it but is is wax with a wick so I have make it for that one person - and I don't want to burn that one person's house down

Yes thats the type of mold I am talking about - I understand about the testing - am wondering about the burn itself - I have never even thought about attempting to burn a novelty candle so have no idea how they actually burn but I know it would have to be completely different than a traditional pillar - with the various odd shapes do you wick for each to tunnel or what?  Is it just determined by whatever you think is the best burn for each individual shape? Some I have seen are fairly thin but very wide making it impossible to consume most of the wax - I guess I am just confused as to what kind of burn I would be looking for

I have a question about what I will call "Novelty" pillar candles for lack of being able to think of the proper or a better name - I am talking about the various different shaped pillars that I have seen such as a Yin Yang, maybe an animal, etc - I guess that these are mainly for looks and don't actually get burned but they are wax and do gave a wick so they WILL get burned sometimes - so my question is exactly how do you go about wicking these? They are completely different from a normal round pillar and that is pretty much all I have ever read about as far as how to wick and what to look for in testing - thanks

On 3/1/2019 at 6:11 PM, Soap Box Pro said:

The Box Co-op is introducing a new line of box packaging to fit your soap molds.  This is a new program that will be expanding as we move forward.

 

These designer boxes are produced on the same high-quality paper we use on our custom packaging – only these are specifically designed to fit your soaps.  The boxes are printed on a heavy thick paper with a spot matte UV finish that complements the printed pattern on the box, which adds dimension, depth and an elegance to your soaps.

 

Our boxes currently fit Soap Equipment’s Single, Triple, and Quadruple 2” x 3” Loaf Soap Mold; using a 1” cutter, the box will fit a 2” x 1” x 3” soap bar.  We realize this may not fit your soap, but as the program expands, we will be adding different sized boxes to fit existing molds.  Please let us know what sized boxes you’d like to see, and what molds to target next.  We look forward to hearing from you.

 

 

Are these boxes on your site yet? I can't seem to find them

4 hours ago, CandleRush said:

Thank you for sharing!🌸

You're welcome 

Got an email from Candles & Supplies saying that they have their Coconut Waxes back in stock with more on the way

I personally do not use it but I know from reading here that many of you do and that there has been a lot of places out of stock so just wanted to share

Bitter Creek

Brambleberry

Bulk Apothecary

Cajun

Candle Cocoon

Cierra

Community

Elements

Just Scent

Keyston

Peak

The Chemistry Store

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I agree 100% - with me it's not so much listing the ingredients as it is being able to legally call it soap and label it as such - if you will notice in the store most "soap" does not actually have the word soap on the label!

I first started playing with M&P back in 2005 - from that time up to now I have heard (or rather I guess technically read) a lot of confusion on whether M&P is classified as soap or if it is classified as a cosmetic and what it's labeling requirements were - the confusion has not just been on this board but literally every group I have seen in which M&P  has been discussed - most of the time some have said that some M&P bases are soap and some aren't - other people have been adamant that all M&P bases were not soap at all but rather are considered cosmetic - Here is a great article from Marie Gale's blog that discusses this -

Marie Gale's blog

The two bases she specifically mentions are Stevenson and SFIC - she states that SFIC is classified as soap but Stephenson is not and explains in detail why - from her explanation you should be able to determine from the ingredients of any base if it is classified as a soap or a cosmetic

Also remember, as she points out if you make any other claim other than it is soap or that it "cleans", even if it is classified as soap that claim will automatically make it a cosmetic!

Just wanted to share this info in the hope that it might be of use

Thank you very much  - will try this one for sure 

Thank you so very much  - will definitely be trying these out 

Who carries a good pure "Salt" scent? I have a couple ideas for some blends that I want to try that need salt

TIA

It has been a VERY long time since I have had a site myself so I hope I get this explanation correct - When you have a website you can view in your website tools as noted above - that there was increased traffic to the site and  if people came to your site from a link on another site you can follow that back to the link they came thru

You definitely want to check the actual IFRA data - I have seen an FO listed as "skin safe" but when looking up the IFRA noted that its use in soap was at 0.2% -  now 3% is 1/2 ounce per lb - 0.2% is almost unmeasurable

I went to the Northwood site to check them out - in browsing I noted that it would only show me the price for 1oz and no other sizes - since there was a "contact us" icon that pops up on every page I did so and explained the problem I was having and stated that I didn't know if this was a problem with their site or my Android phone - got a reply from them thanking me for my interest in them and assuring me they did have sizes other than just 1oz and telling me this was a known problem that affects both Android devices and some iPhones - I replied back that before I ordered 1oz sizes to test I needed to know the prices of the 1lb bottles as well as checking out their shipping costs to see what the final cost breakdown would be on my end (as I do with every single thing from every single site before I order) and that I was unable to do so on their site - got a reply back apologising for the inconvenience and suggesting I download another browser so I could use their site - I replied back that it was no inconvenience at all since I would just do business elsewhere and that I had never had any problem accessing any other site - did not receive another reply from them - so they tell me this is a known problem and their fix is for me to download another browser? No thanks, there are more than enough other suppliers for me

Community Candle has this - not sure if this is the one he is talking about or not tho